AI seems like a cult

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Anonymous wrote:This will be eye opening- try to think of 10 jobs/professions that won’t be either entirely eliminated or significantly impacted (to the point of dramatic RIFs) in the next 10 years.

It’s harder than you think.

Any of the skilled trades (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry, fabrication, maintenance/engineering) automotive/vehicle maintenance/repair, firefighting, policing, emergency medical response, commercial fishing, oil and gas drilling….


I think most traditional white collar or professional jobs will be eliminated by AI, but jobs that require human dexterity and problem solving in endlessly dissimilar scenarios will continue to be dominated by humans.


Bad luck for lawyers, doctors and accountants. Good luck for people who turn wrenches, screwdrivers, or fix things.

Speaking for lawyers and doctors (myself and family members), this is laughable. Lawyers are getting sanctioned for using AI.

Smdh

Most of the younger attorneys I’ve known have spent half their first decade in some room toiling away on doc review. When AI takes over doc review, there will be vastly fewer attorneys needed. Fewer younger attorneys in the near future means fewer older attorneys in the longer-term future.


No point in getting upset. Y’all had a good run.

But didn't digitized character based (OCR) doc review already disrupt the doc review employment market long ago? I thought the systems were already capable of searching, finding, aggregating key relevant passages, etc. I thought that already got switched to low wage readers and load docs into machines about 30 years ago...and went all digital once document file size limits became manageable and people stopped producing paper?

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Anonymous wrote:AI will probably replace most of the huge population of low skills jobs in the federal govt related to processing forms and compliance.

There are no "low skill jobs in the federal govt related to processing forms and compliance". But thanks for displaying your ignorance.

The claim that such roles don't exist is not only inaccurate but also dismissive of the extensive administrative infrastructure within federal agencies. These positions often involve routine tasks such as data entry, records management, form processing, and compliance verification—functions that are fundamental to the government's operations but are increasingly being streamlined through automation.

Examples of Federal Positions:

Administrative Support Assistant (GS-0303): Provides clerical and administrative support, including managing records and processing forms.

Records Clerk (GS-1421): Maintains and organizes records, ensuring compliance with federal regulations.

Compliance Analyst (GS-1800): Monitors and ensures adherence to laws and regulations by reviewing and processing compliance-related documentation.

Data Entry Clerk (GS-0322): Inputs data from forms and documents into federal databases, ensuring accuracy and compliance with data standards.
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Program Support Assistant (GS-0303): Provides administrative support to programs, including processing forms and maintaining records.

Legal Administrative Assistant (GS-0901): Assists in legal matters by preparing documents, managing files, and ensuring compliance with legal procedures.

Human Resources Assistant (GS-0203): Handles personnel records, processes forms related to employment, and ensures compliance with HR policies.

Budget Analyst (GS-0560): Assists in the preparation and management of budgets, ensuring compliance with financial regulations.

Contract Specialist (GS-1102): Manages contracts, ensuring compliance with federal acquisition regulations.

Purchasing Agent (GS-1105): Procures goods and services, ensuring compliance with procurement policies.

Supply Technician (GS-2005): Manages inventory and supplies, ensuring compliance with inventory management procedures.

Transportation Assistant (GS-2130): Coordinates transportation logistics, ensuring compliance with transportation regulations.

Security Assistant (GS-0086): Assists in security operations, ensuring compliance with security protocols.

Medical Records Technician (GS-0675): Manages medical records, ensuring compliance with health information regulations.

Veterinary Medical Officer (GS-0701): Provides veterinary services, ensuring compliance with animal health regulations.

Environmental Protection Specialist (GS-0028): Monitors environmental compliance, ensuring adherence to environmental laws and regulations.

Safety and Occupational Health Specialist (GS-0018): Ensures workplace safety compliance, adhering to occupational health and safety regulations.

Equal Employment Opportunity Specialist (GS-0360): Monitors and ensures compliance with equal employment opportunity laws and regulations.

Public Affairs Specialist (GS-1035): Manages public relations, ensuring compliance with communication policies.

Information Technology Specialist (GS-2210): Manages IT systems, ensuring compliance with cybersecurity regulations.

These roles are integral to the federal government's operations, focusing on maintaining compliance, processing forms, and managing records. With advancements in AI, many of these tasks are being automated, increasing efficiency and reducing the need for human intervention in routine processes.

So when you read "workplace safety compliance" you think forms and not, say, physically inspecting a site? How would you automate a safety inspection of workers on a job site?

I'm super curious to hear how AI would handle "provides veterinary services" or "manages public relations," too.

BTW, some of the jobs you list aren't actually filled IRL anymore, even if the job codes still exist. They have been contracted out or eliminated already, without AI.

The PP used AI to generate that list, and then posted it without even reading it, let alone understanding it.

Which is actually a fantastic example of the quality of “work” we can expect once AI takes over.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I know somebody who just chats at it all day like it's a person.

Look up "dead internet theory." It's the idea that most online interaction is by and for bots - not in the sentient sense, but in the sense of AI text is designed to appeal to search engines, which then promote it. It's circular.

This. Also DIT is more than just bots. It's corporations like Google and governments basically censoring the vast majority of websites.

Example - 20 years ago you could good a search term/phrase and get over a million results and websites. Now, decades later, google the same term and you get only maybe 100 at most before it says "end of results".

DNS be like it be.

Just like all the mainstream media on TV are owned by just 6 corporations and controlled by a handful of people.

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Anonymous wrote:This will be eye opening- try to think of 10 jobs/professions that won’t be either entirely eliminated or significantly impacted (to the point of dramatic RIFs) in the next 10 years.

It’s harder than you think.

Any of the skilled trades (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry, fabrication, maintenance/engineering) automotive/vehicle maintenance/repair, firefighting, policing, emergency medical response, commercial fishing, oil and gas drilling….


I think most traditional white collar or professional jobs will be eliminated by AI, but jobs that require human dexterity and problem solving in endlessly dissimilar scenarios will continue to be dominated by humans.


Bad luck for lawyers, doctors and accountants. Good luck for people who turn wrenches, screwdrivers, or fix things.

Speaking for lawyers and doctors (myself and family members), this is laughable. Lawyers are getting sanctioned for using AI.

Smdh

No. I am a doctor and am 100 percent certain that in a short period of time there will be many VC startups providing medical care done by AI. It will be lower quality than care done by actual doctors but it will be cheaper or more convenient or just better marketed and people will pay for it. A real doctor will sign off on thousands of visits a day to make it legit. This is already happening except with nurse practitioners/PAs providing care via text (think Hims/Hers type businesses). It’s a very small jump from that to AI doing it.

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Yup!

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Anonymous wrote:If you aren't using AI, people wonder why it takes you so long to do work now.

Haha! No.

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Anonymous wrote:This will be eye opening- try to think of 10 jobs/professions that won’t be either entirely eliminated or significantly impacted (to the point of dramatic RIFs) in the next 10 years.

It’s harder than you think.

Any of the skilled trades (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry, fabrication, maintenance/engineering) automotive/vehicle maintenance/repair, firefighting, policing, emergency medical response, commercial fishing, oil and gas drilling….


I think most traditional white collar or professional jobs will be eliminated by AI, but jobs that require human dexterity and problem solving in endlessly dissimilar scenarios will continue to be dominated by humans.


Bad luck for lawyers, doctors and accountants. Good luck for people who turn wrenches, screwdrivers, or fix things.

Speaking for lawyers and doctors (myself and family members), this is laughable. Lawyers are getting sanctioned for using AI.

Smdh

No. I am a doctor and am 100 percent certain that in a short period of time there will be many VC startups providing medical care done by AI. It will be lower quality than care done by actual doctors but it will be cheaper or more convenient or just better marketed and people will pay for it. A real doctor will sign off on thousands of visits a day to make it legit. This is already happening except with nurse practitioners/PAs providing care via text (think Hims/Hers type businesses). It’s a very small jump from that to AI doing it.

While I agree that there will be business innovations in the medical industry, I wonder how all that mass liability for substandard care could be handled.

Below is a gift article where a family is suing medical employees related to privacy violations alone. I suppose employees were freaking out about the care mistakes...

Startup investors like profitable businesses not liability nightmares.

Who will sign their name and risk licensing?

https://wapo.st/43aCOEP
Amazon One Medical employees wrongfully accessed dead patient’s records
Nine employees viewed Philip Tong’s medical records in alleged violation of California privacy law, according to court documents filed by his family.

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There are already many, many startups involved in shoddy medical care. It is so profitable that they can absorb lawsuit costs. Look at Cerebral (the Adderall pill mill). They still made millions before they were eventually shut down. And there are many startups already looking into the use of AI for medical care. I personally know doctors involved in several.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will be eye opening- try to think of 10 jobs/professions that won’t be either entirely eliminated or significantly impacted (to the point of dramatic RIFs) in the next 10 years.

It’s harder than you think.

Any of the skilled trades (plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry, fabrication, maintenance/engineering) automotive/vehicle maintenance/repair, firefighting, policing, emergency medical response, commercial fishing, oil and gas drilling….


I think most traditional white collar or professional jobs will be eliminated by AI, but jobs that require human dexterity and problem solving in endlessly dissimilar scenarios will continue to be dominated by humans.


Bad luck for lawyers, doctors and accountants. Good luck for people who turn wrenches, screwdrivers, or fix things.

Speaking for lawyers and doctors (myself and family members), this is laughable. Lawyers are getting sanctioned for using AI.

Smdh

No. I am a doctor and am 100 percent certain that in a short period of time there will be many VC startups providing medical care done by AI. It will be lower quality than care done by actual doctors but it will be cheaper or more convenient or just better marketed and people will pay for it. A real doctor will sign off on thousands of visits a day to make it legit. This is already happening except with nurse practitioners/PAs providing care via text (think Hims/Hers type businesses). It’s a very small jump from that to AI doing it.

No respect for NP’s, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was the saddest article I've seen in a long time: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/openai-chatgpt-ai-cheating-education-college-students-school.html
(Sorry no gift link, but using a paywall bypass website works fine)
College now is basically reduced to AI grading itself (both professors and students). A student mentioned she enjoyed writing and kind of wished she could have written her paper, but knew she'd get a better grade having AI do it, and the grade was more important.

Real universities moved to blue book writing tests a couple years ago.

Gds here did too, for upper school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asking AI for sources is really the worst use for it- AI does best when you load in a document and ask for a summary, talking points, etc.

It’s also great for first drafts of things that don’t matter that much, like an email.

I’ve also loaded standard operating procedures and asked for improvements or automations I can make in processes.

I’ve also used it to grab code to automate some current processes- something that I really did not have time to figure out before- it’s amazing, but it’s a tool, and you have to know how to use it properly.

All my documents at work have signed NDAs so no we won’t be “uploading” trade secrets, venture capital businesses, and strategy plans to some big @$$ LMM AI program for free. Ever.

Garbage in, garbage out. Enjoy your big generic data base, along with everyone else.

Meanwhile, smart organizations may buy that big generic database but run their own models with their own property data and files. You’ll only see what gets released to the public.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. And I think people, especially kids, are going to suffer from brain rot big time.

Yup.

Now instead of half the country being unhirable, it will be 80%.

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Anonymous wrote:Several friends are into AI and using it to write. They don't understand AI makes up references and is based on people's existing ideas and writing.

The way some talk about AI sounds cult-like. Meanwhile, they are contributing to something that is designed to make money from corporations that want to replace their workers with AI.

Anyone else feel this way?

Losers will be losers.

Nothing new here. They didn’t know how to think or write before, and they still don’t. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if the Pope references Ai in one of his first public speeches, then there is a significant issue to address. If you don’t understand that, then you don’t understand anything beyond the next year or so.

People who use it to write their final work product are lazy any will always be lazy and will be the first to be fired and the last to be hired.

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Anonymous wrote:AI is excellent, it's like having an assistant do precisely what you want without talking to someone.

I think we’re in a bad place as a species when we’d rather interact with a non-sentient computer program than another human being.

When did it become cool to hate people and when is it going to change?

Let the human interaction avoidant aspies rejoice.