MCEA warns members that MECCA Business Learning Institute (MBLI) may not be ready

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Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

Many MCPS Middle Schools have Excel Beyond the Bell, which is offered at:

Argyle
Roberto Clemente
Forest Oak
Francis Scott Key
A. Mario Loiederman
Montgomery Village
Neelsville
Odessa Shannon

It is typically installed at MSes with significant FARMS rates, as those kids typically have working parents who aren't home from work when school lets out. Afterschool programming helps prevent adolescent kids from getting into trouble outside of school by strengthening their ties to the school in a fun, engaging and productive way. Given who MBLI is trying to serve, I imagine they're trying to accomplish the same thing with their aftercare mandate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

Many MCPS Middle Schools have Excel Beyond the Bell, which is offered at:

Argyle
Roberto Clemente
Forest Oak
Francis Scott Key
A. Mario Loiederman
Montgomery Village
Neelsville
Odessa Shannon

It is typically installed at MSes with significant FARMS rates, as those kids typically have working parents who aren't home from work when school lets out. Afterschool programming helps prevent adolescent kids from getting into trouble outside of school by strengthening their ties to the school in a fun, engaging and productive way. Given who MBLI is trying to serve, I imagine they're trying to accomplish the same thing with their aftercare mandate.

I want us to be clear on the difference between after care and extra-curricular activities or tutoring. After care is essentially daycare. MS doesn't need daycare those kids can go home by themselves. Extra curricular activities and tutoring make for a more well rounded kid and has academic benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

Many MCPS Middle Schools have Excel Beyond the Bell, which is offered at:

Argyle
Roberto Clemente
Forest Oak
Francis Scott Key
A. Mario Loiederman
Montgomery Village
Neelsville
Odessa Shannon

It is typically installed at MSes with significant FARMS rates, as those kids typically have working parents who aren't home from work when school lets out. Afterschool programming helps prevent adolescent kids from getting into trouble outside of school by strengthening their ties to the school in a fun, engaging and productive way. Given who MBLI is trying to serve, I imagine they're trying to accomplish the same thing with their aftercare mandate.

I want us to be clear on the difference between after care and extra-curricular activities or tutoring. After care is essentially daycare. MS doesn't need daycare those kids can go home by themselves. Extra curricular activities and tutoring make for a more well rounded kid and has academic benefit.

They said it's to serve parents who need to pick their kids up later and also for enrichment, when asked what teachers would receive for this, they could not answer clearly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

Many MCPS Middle Schools have Excel Beyond the Bell, which is offered at:

Argyle
Roberto Clemente
Forest Oak
Francis Scott Key
A. Mario Loiederman
Montgomery Village
Neelsville
Odessa Shannon

It is typically installed at MSes with significant FARMS rates, as those kids typically have working parents who aren't home from work when school lets out. Afterschool programming helps prevent adolescent kids from getting into trouble outside of school by strengthening their ties to the school in a fun, engaging and productive way. Given who MBLI is trying to serve, I imagine they're trying to accomplish the same thing with their aftercare mandate.

I want us to be clear on the difference between after care and extra-curricular activities or tutoring. After care is essentially daycare. MS doesn't need daycare those kids can go home by themselves. Extra curricular activities and tutoring make for a more well rounded kid and has academic benefit.

They said it's to serve parents who need to pick their kids up later and also for enrichment, when asked what teachers would receive for this, they could not answer clearly.

Is this because the yellow bus may be picking up from a central site that parents can't get back at the right time?

[Anonymous]

Staffing is moving forward at MBLI. The application I submitted back in April just got updated to Under Consideration today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Staffing is moving forward at MBLI. The application I submitted back in April just got updated to Under Consideration today.

Dangerously close to the deadline for internal transfers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

It may also be for transportation given the distance, no bu sservice.

[Anonymous]

Why would an MCPS teacher want this job? More hours and less security for the same pay doesn’t sound enticing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would an MCPS teacher want this job? More hours and less security for the same pay doesn’t sound enticing.

No teaching job is secure. Teacher get moved around within schools and to different schools all the time involuntarily. It may be more stable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would an MCPS teacher want this job? More hours and less security for the same pay doesn’t sound enticing.

No teaching job is secure. Teacher get moved around within schools and to different schools all the time involuntarily. It may be more stable.

I would not say all the time. The worst year there was what 100-200 transfers projected? Out of about 13k teachers...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would an MCPS teacher want this job? More hours and less security for the same pay doesn’t sound enticing.

No teaching job is secure. Teacher get moved around within schools and to different schools all the time involuntarily. It may be more stable.

I would not say all the time. The worst year there was what 100-200 transfers projected? Out of about 13k teachers...

No, there are usually more than that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the teaching positions unionized? I know in DC charters most are not.

Yes. Members are part of MCEA. There needs to be an updated MOU to cover whatever programmatic differences there are at MBLI, but they haven’t started negotiating that yet. This is part of why MCEA sent the caution to teachers in April.

Gotcha. So teachers are unionized but may not have the same salary/conditions as those who pro for MCPS?

Correct, so if they're asked to stay after their duty day for this daily aftercare MBLI said they were going to have, they would need an MOU to determine compensation and wouldn't be able to file grievances in line with it

What have MCPS teachers negotiated for all the work they do after the duty day?

Nothing financially - but they are not obligated to do any work in the building after the duty day by their administrators, whereas the MBLI is explicitly saying they are asking teachers to stay after school to facilitate an after care program.

MBLI is starting with MS. Why do they need an after-care program?

Many MCPS Middle Schools have Excel Beyond the Bell, which is offered at:

Argyle
Roberto Clemente
Forest Oak
Francis Scott Key
A. Mario Loiederman
Montgomery Village
Neelsville
Odessa Shannon

It is typically installed at MSes with significant FARMS rates, as those kids typically have working parents who aren't home from work when school lets out. Afterschool programming helps prevent adolescent kids from getting into trouble outside of school by strengthening their ties to the school in a fun, engaging and productive way. Given who MBLI is trying to serve, I imagine they're trying to accomplish the same thing with their aftercare mandate.

I want us to be clear on the difference between after care and extra-curricular activities or tutoring. After care is essentially daycare. MS doesn't need daycare those kids can go home by themselves. Extra curricular activities and tutoring make for a more well rounded kid and has academic benefit.

Low income kids often live in neighborhoods that are unsafe for them to walk home through. Some of my students are in shared housing and it isn’t safe for them to even stay at home without a parent. One of my students sits in McDonald’s during her mom’s shifts.