Measles in Maryland and Virginia--Buckle Up, Buttercup

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what country did that person come from why aren't they mentioning it? We need a travel ban
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Anonymous wrote:Another potential pandemic with a moron in charge.

Howard County resident:
https://wtop.com/local/2025/03/measles-case-confirmed-in-howard-co-resident-who-passed-through-dulles/


https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-virginia-measles-potential-exposure-sites




Except there is a vaccine for measles and most people have been vaccinated at some point in the past 5 decades.


Except for little babies, but who cares about them.


Breast milk should convey measles antibodies.


This. I’m not concerned at all.

What about babies who are not breastfed? Not yours, so no big deal?
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Anonymous wrote:Another potential pandemic with a moron in charge.

Howard County resident:
https://wtop.com/local/2025/03/measles-case-confirmed-in-howard-co-resident-who-passed-through-dulles/


https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-virginia-measles-potential-exposure-sites




Except there is a vaccine for measles and most people have been vaccinated at some point in the past 5 decades.


Except for little babies, but who cares about them.


Breast milk should convey measles antibodies.


This. I’m not concerned at all.

What about babies who are not breastfed? Not yours, so no big deal?


Babies receive the immunities of the parent while in the womb and those immunities last for about six months. They can be vaccinated against measles as early as six months when an outbreak exists. One of my children was born during the measles outbreak in New Jersey in 1991 and was vaccinated early because of it. Pediatricians were telling all the parents of very young babies to get MMR vaccines early because of the measles outbreak. If you have a very young baby, you should ask your pediatrician for their advice about vaccinations for your child.

Information from Mayo Clinic about babies and MMR vaccinations here:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857
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Well it’s been a few days now. And since measles is very contagious I would have assumed we would have heard something if someone else on the same plane or in the ER was infected now. This is making me cautiously optimistic.
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Anonymous wrote:Well it’s been a few days now. And since measles is very contagious I would have assumed we would have heard something if someone else on the same plane or in the ER was infected now. This is making me cautiously optimistic.


It’s a 7-10 day incubation so we have to wait a few beats to really know. It’s hard to predict how this will affect high vax areas. It’s possible the herd immunity barrier will hold. Fingers crossed.
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Anonymous wrote:I imagine if it actually becomes a real issue in the area-parents will be advised to keep their kids under 1 home until it’s contained. Really that’s a very specific group and I can’t imagine if it does happen the risk will be for very long.


If I had to stay home for 12 months with a newborn, I would have gone CRAZY.

Not to mention some parents have jobs and need to work to survive. Skipping daycare isn't an option for many.



You mean just like we all had jobs during COVID too? If it was a real threat and I had a newborn I would stay home absolutely, even if it did suck. That being said-I would think daycare is a more controlled environment since they require proper on time vaccination. So the only exposure they would come in contact with would be unvaxxed parents and other newborns. But I still wouldn’t even take that risk.


Right but its was a global pandemic. this will not have the same response and people only care about babies in the womb

and daycares do not require vaccination. if its exempted by physician its legal. plus on time is 12-15mos. also staff may not be vaccinated. when i asked daycares about requiring vaccinations and verifying they said they couldnt because of hippa. i took that as a no


Ummm the daycare that my children go to absolutely requires vaccination records. You cannot enroll without them. And we get a notice every time they need to be updated. I’m sure some shady home daycares are much more lax about it though.


Yes they require them to be filled out but there is a spot for exemptions by physician. And they dont have to have them on the same timeline as required. The timeline is suggested as cumulative for the age range.
"Exemptions from a physical examination, immunizations, and Blood-Lead testing are permitted if the parent has an
objection based on their bona fide religious beliefs and practices. The Blood-Lead certificate must be signed by a Health
Care Practitioner stating a questionnaire was done.
Children may also be exempted from immunization requirements if a physician, nurse practitioner, or health department
official certifies that there is a medical reason for the child not to receive a vaccine.
The health information on this form will be available only to those health and child care providers or child care personnel
who have a legitimate care responsibility for the child."

So you wont ever know if a kid in your kids class was exempted from vaccination.

My reference to requiring vaccinations in the second part was specific to staff. I am aware HIPPA doesnt apply to me asking whether their policy is that staff must be vaccinated and require proof but the idea that their response was "Its HIPPA" told me two things 1) you dont know HIPPA 2) you are lying because you know outright saying that it isnt required will be an issue for most people because babies arent vaccinated so their caregivers should be and 3) you obviously dont require them so this is a no for me anyways


I run a daycare, and I cannot get a straight answer from licensing, whether or not we can exclude children who are unvaccinated (not due to religious reasons).

Some site ADA, some will not give us an answer but point us to comar, which leaves a lot of room for interpretation and believe me we do not want to be sued.

It is easy for parents to get religious exemptions from doctors. Parents also lie to us during enrollment and tell us they plan to vaccinate or that their children are vaccinated and once the paperwork is signed and they’re accepted, we find out they lie.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another potential pandemic with a moron in charge.

Howard County resident:
https://wtop.com/local/2025/03/measles-case-confirmed-in-howard-co-resident-who-passed-through-dulles/


https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-virginia-measles-potential-exposure-sites




Except there is a vaccine for measles and most people have been vaccinated at some point in the past 5 decades.


Except for little babies, but who cares about them.


Breast milk should convey measles antibodies.


This. I’m not concerned at all.


And I AM concerned. I went to med school-did you?
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Anonymous wrote:what country did that person come from why aren't they mentioning it? We need a travel ban


Republic of Texas
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another potential pandemic with a moron in charge.

Howard County resident:
https://wtop.com/local/2025/03/measles-case-confirmed-in-howard-co-resident-who-passed-through-dulles/


https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-virginia-measles-potential-exposure-sites




Except there is a vaccine for measles and most people have been vaccinated at some point in the past 5 decades.


Except for little babies, but who cares about them.


Breast milk should convey measles antibodies.


This. I’m not concerned at all.

What about babies who are not breastfed? Not yours, so no big deal?


If she chooses to not breastfeed then I don’t see why I should care about her baby more than she does. And if she has a medical reason for not breastfeeding and is concerned about measles then baby would need to be isolated from 6-12 months of age until the parents are ready to vaccinate. That’s just an unfortunate result of having a medical condition.
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Anonymous wrote:what country did that person come from why aren't they mentioning it? We need a travel ban


Republic of Texas

Story on the reporter’s meeting Peter the Mennonite dad of the 6 year old girl who died in Texas. So sad. But the dad has accepted the death as God’s will and explained why he was “suspicious” of vaccines and the harm they could do so what can you do with such deep seated suspicion.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/
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Anonymous wrote:Well it’s been a few days now. And since measles is very contagious I would have assumed we would have heard something if someone else on the same plane or in the ER was infected now. This is making me cautiously optimistic.


It’s a 7-10 day incubation so we have to wait a few beats to really know. It’s hard to predict how this will affect high vax areas. It’s possible the herd immunity barrier will hold. Fingers crossed.


Right but measles is typically pretty fast with the spread. Someone who was exposed to this person would most certainly already be showing some symptoms. And the fact that they would have been informed of the exposure-I would think they would have already contacted whomever they were supposed to that they were showing symptoms.
Anonymous
This Brady Bunch clip about measles has been making the rounds for years. Of course we should all get the MMR vaccine. It’s ridiculous to assert otherwise. But it’s not the worst health crisis either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5289k-dbOMY&pp=ygUTYnJhZHkgYnVuY2ggbWVhc2xlcw%3D%3D
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Anonymous wrote:This Brady Bunch clip about measles has been making the rounds for years. Of course we should all get the MMR vaccine. It’s ridiculous to assert otherwise. But it’s not the worst health crisis either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5289k-dbOMY&pp=ygUTYnJhZHkgYnVuY2ggbWVhc2xlcw%3D%3D


Unless you have a 6 year old who died of it like the family in Texas whose kid died two weeks ago. Or gets permanent neurological damage because of it. Or become sterile because of it. Roald Dahl's daughter died of it a few years before measles vaccines became available. He wrote this letter.
https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy,” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunized against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion, parents who now refuse to have their children immunized are putting the lives of those children at risk. In America, where measles immunization is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunized, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die.

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunized?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunization! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunization.

So what on earth are you worrying about? It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunized.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunization should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was ‘James and the Giant Peach‘. That was when she was still alive. The second was ‘The BFG‘, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.




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Anonymous wrote:This Brady Bunch clip about measles has been making the rounds for years. Of course we should all get the MMR vaccine. It’s ridiculous to assert otherwise. But it’s not the worst health crisis either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5289k-dbOMY&pp=ygUTYnJhZHkgYnVuY2ggbWVhc2xlcw%3D%3D


Unless you have a 6 year old who died of it like the family in Texas whose kid died two weeks ago. Or gets permanent neurological damage because of it. Or become sterile because of it. Roald Dahl's daughter died of it a few years before measles vaccines became available. He wrote this letter.
https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy,” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her. That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.

On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunized against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.

It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion, parents who now refuse to have their children immunized are putting the lives of those children at risk. In America, where measles immunization is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.

Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunized, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die.

LET THAT SINK IN.

Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.

So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunized?

They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunization! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunization.

So what on earth are you worrying about? It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunized.

The ideal time to have it done is at 13 months, but it is never too late. All school-children who have not yet had a measles immunization should beg their parents to arrange for them to have one as soon as possible.

Incidentally, I dedicated two of my books to Olivia, the first was ‘James and the Giant Peach‘. That was when she was still alive. The second was ‘The BFG‘, dedicated to her memory after she had died from measles. You will see her name at the beginning of each of these books. And I know how happy she would be if only she could know that her death had helped to save a good deal of illness and death among other children.



I merely stated that it’s not the worst health crisis ever. It’s not. Most people recover fully from measles but not all. And everyone should be vaccinated.

Let’s keep an eye out but not totally freak.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not worried. Recently been vaxed. This is mostly a concern for the immuno-compromised.


Some of whom are here! Imagine!


Then get a booster MMR or just measles booster when you’re between treatments! You can do this!! Get a titer while you’re waiting.

Wear that well-fitted N95 in crowds! It really does work.

- Administers these shots to adults
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