Probationaries getting fired today

[Anonymous]

Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.

You’re right. Sorry. I am not in probationary status, but really worried about my colleagues that are.

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Anonymous wrote:Do probationaries get any kind of severance?

Not if they were fired. Severance is for RIF.

Pretty sure they do. It's an involuntary separation

Yes, but it's a firing and not a RIF, so no severence.

They’re layoffs. Only someone that hasn’t experienced a layoff wouldn’t know the difference.

There is a difference in the government. A layoff comes with severence. A firing doesn't. These were firings.

Was it fair? Absolutely not. Was it legal? Absolutely not. But they fired them to avoid having to follow the regs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.

They're no longer probationary. They're now unemployed. Get it right.

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Anonymous wrote:Do probationaries get any kind of severance?

Not if they were fired. Severance is for RIF.

Pretty sure they do. It's an involuntary separation

Yes, but it's a firing and not a RIF, so no severence.

They’re layoffs. Only someone that hasn’t experienced a layoff wouldn’t know the difference.

There is a difference in the government. A layoff comes with severence. A firing doesn't. These were firings.

Was it fair? Absolutely not. Was it legal? Absolutely not. But they fired them to avoid having to follow the regs.

This is a layoff. They qualify for unemployment. People fired for cause do not qualify for unemployment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.

They're no longer probationary. They're now unemployed. Get it right.

What’s your problem?

[Anonymous]

What if someone wasn't at their computer to receive the news? I'm imagining flex schedule or on leave. What a nite mare to find out the next day when you can't get in the building in the morning.

[Anonymous]

I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?

[Anonymous]

Was it every single probationary employee at DoE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?

Depends on agency.

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Anonymous wrote:DOE let go of most of their probationary staff today. It’s been a gut wrenching sort of day to tell smart STEM professionals who you recruited away from industry and who moved their families that they were being let go.

That is awful and nauseating. I’m so sorry for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?

Competitive service has one year probationary periods and executive service has two. Are you sure he’s still on probation?

[Anonymous]

It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.

200k is being reported. The largest layoffs in history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.

It’s in the hundreds after adding up all the agencies that did this over the last 72 hours. Perhaps more.