With the DOE being shuttered, How will it affect colleges?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

I have a feeling I know who you voted for. If you think they would go this far to shutter the DOE just for the services to be performed by another department, I have a bridge to sell you. They want less children in college, especially poor ones.

College is woke. All use the same bathroom at college. Stay away.

Can your DC get into the schools we commonly talk about here? I don't see any hillbillies at my Alma mater.

I guess you didn't get into Yale Law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a former ED official. The ED has always been a bloated, useless agency (Thanks, Carter). What you don't understand is that when the agency was created, every useless staffer or lawyer in other agencies were sent to ED, which is how I ended up managing over 100 staff and lawyers much later. I can't begin to tell you how dysfunctional they were. I had one lawyer who reported to me who spent ALL of his work hours doing FOIA requests to
learn why he hadn't earned "superior" on his last review. We tried to hint that perhaps that was because he did nothing substantive for ED. but he couldn't be fired. Every single program at ED can be 1) contracted out; 2) sent back to HHS (where ED matters were at HEW before ED was created by Carter): or, better yet 3) sent back to the states, who are, after all, closer to constituents so can bettet determine their needs. And, no, I'm not a Trumper.

This is the disheartening part of the whole exercise. I'm also not a Trumper but before this I never understood just how much bloat there is in government.

And you still have no idea because you are just basing your opinion on an anonymous random.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

I have a feeling I know who you voted for. If you think they would go this far to shutter the DOE just for the services to be performed by another department, I have a bridge to sell you. They want less children in college, especially poor ones.

College is woke. All use the same bathroom at college. Stay away.

Can your DC get into the schools we commonly talk about here? I don't see any hillbillies at my Alma mater.

I guess you didn't get into Yale Law.

Sure, Jan.

DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to college before the DOE existed. My family filled out the FAFSA and I received a combination of Pell Grants, other financial aid grants, and merit scholarships for each of my four years.

So, FAFSA and Pell Grants definitely existed before the DOE was formed.

Much of what is now done within the DOE was under HEW (Health, Education, and Welfare) back then.

Right. Anything at ED can be 1) sent back to HHS/HEW from whence came ED, 2) be contracted out, 3) or sent back to b managed at the state lev

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So you would like to return control of our education systems (and the funding for it) over to the states? Glad I live in a Blue state.
The DOE is the reason kids with disabilities are required to be properly educated (within given guidlines---I get that it's often not as much as is needed).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

Second most concern. I'm worried about funding for research. I have a feeling it might not last for medicine and engineering heavy schools.

This 1000%! PHD students will struggle to have their programs funded. There is a reason we have some of the Top universities in the world, and well funded meaningful research is a huge part of that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

Because some red states wouldn’t fund these things at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

Because some red states wouldn’t fund these things at all.

That should be their choice. If Mississippi wants to remain at the bottom of every list that is up to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So you know nothing about it yet you feel qualified to point out it is useless?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

Because some red states wouldn’t fund these things at all.

That should be their choice. If Mississippi wants to remain at the bottom of every list that is up to them.

Their citizens have rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

I have a feeling I know who you voted for. If you think they would go this far to shutter the DOE just for the services to be performed by another department, I have a bridge to sell you. They want less children in college, especially poor ones.

+1

They can gut all the programs and leave them empty without technically closing DOE entirely. And they're happy to start as soon as possible - well before the Senate speaks up, let alone bothers to schedule a vote. See the shuttered USAID programs. No Senate vote required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

Because some red states wouldn’t fund these things at all.

That should be their choice. If Mississippi wants to remain at the bottom of every list that is up to them.

Their citizens have rights.

The right to move to a Blue state . . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

So, because you don't know what it does, it shouldn't exist? How about researching that first? Congress passes a lot of ecducaiotn related laws and DoE implements those laws.

https://www.ed.gov/about/ed-offices/oese/offices-programs-by-office

Of local interest, DoE:
awards grant to fund your local magnet school programs;
supports charter school programs;
funds school vouchers in DC, which impacts DC kids and DC private school budgets;
awards grants for school construction;
funds education for children of members of the uniformed services;
funds school emergency management, like school shooter preparedness;
grants for educating homeless children and youths;
grants for school infrastructure
funds research into developing early education and early intervention programs;

...and so on.

All good causes, but why is the federal government doing this? Other than schools for military families, these all sound like state functions.

- Not MAGA

Because some red states wouldn’t fund these things at all.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

Hello MAGA

It's Elon...he's infiltrated DCUM.

Just the thought of this cracks me up.