With the DOE being shuttered, How will it affect colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

Hello MAGA

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Anonymous wrote:What does DOE even do? Just because it exists doesn't mean it should exist forever. Where's the value add?

That's the problem with federal departments and agencies. Too many people are afraid to point out they're useless.

Hello MAGA

Hi there. Not MAGA, never voted for Trump. I'm guessing you can't think of an answer.

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Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

I thought that was funny too.

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Anonymous wrote:who will think of the rankings?!

I know I'm concerned. The publics might tank aren't most students on pell grants.

Pell numbers will stay where they are. US News rankings weigh Pell heavily, one of the reasons why some publics moved up over the last few years as US News tweaked its methodology.

Pell isn't going away.

Sure those numbers won't be reported without the DOE and if they cut pell funding then game over.

Yea, how will US news count pell numbers that won't be reported... Atleast Wake gets its ranking back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

Second most concern. I'm worried about funding for research. I have a feeling it might not last for medicine and engineering heavy schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

Second most concern. I'm worried about funding for research. I have a feeling it might not last for medicine and engineering heavy schools.

The Department of Education doesn't fund much reasearch, if any.

HHS, DoD, NSF fund the lion's share of reaearch.

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Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

The Treasury Dept now under Musk and a bunch of zealot 22 year olds? Ah confidence restored.

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Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

Where six 19-24 year old coders have the keys. Cool, cool.

Education Department makes sure schools are complying with IDEA and other federal laws (including anti-discrimination laws). Without them, oversight probably reverts to the states.

They collect data about school performance, but we can just leave that to US News, right? Your representatives won't get government data to guide them on education legislation, they'll just read parent reviews on GreatSchools.com. I'm sure it'll be fine.

That NEAP report that was just in the news last week? That's done by a division of the Dept of Ed.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, the RANKINGS are your foremost concern if DOE is shuttered?

I thought that was funny too.

Gross, not funny, considering the likelihood that this is going to have lifelong negative impact on low income children and families whose children have special needs, including gifted and talented students.

This also may wipe out funding for magnet schools under the Magnet School Assistance Program (FCPS stands to lose $15 million for its magnet programs -- good luck, TJ).

[Anonymous]

with so much uncertainty, colleges will be taking more full pay students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:who will think of the rankings?!

I know I'm concerned. The publics might tank aren't most students on pell grants.

Pell numbers will stay where they are. US News rankings weigh Pell heavily, one of the reasons why some publics moved up over the last few years as US News tweaked its methodology.

Pell isn't going away.

There is no way that the methodology isn’t going to change again now . The Pell and first gen factors are relatively new.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No more FAFSA, so good luck getting aid.

That authority would move back to the Treasury Department.

Also closing DOE entirely would require a supermajority of 60 senators, meaning some Dems would need to join all the Reps, which is unlikely to happen.

It was unlikely that Elon would be allowed to "feed USAID into the woodchipper" overnight but that happened. Stop acting like reason and the rule of law is going to prevail.

Also, if you have confidence that whoever is left over at Treasury to manage these programs is going to have the first clue, then god bless.

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enrollment management will become VERY important. Full pay, no aid requested, will be given a bump - almost akin to a hook.

Need-blind will go away because it will be too hard to figure out what the Pell certainty will look like. They can't just "fudge" the numbers here or they have the plug a hole.

Watch and see this play out.

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Musk's DOGE crew has already been asking for Depart of Education info:

"According to a third person granted anonymity to discuss sensitive information, representatives from the so-called Department of Government Efficiency were working at Education Department headquarters Monday and seeking access to agency records."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/03/trump-finalizing-plans-shutter-education-department-00202225