How much does IQ matter?

[Anonymous]

When IQ is very low, it matters. Just look at this most recent election.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

You don't understand that low IQ have no where to go. Who is being PC about it? They don't qualify for special ed. There aren't any vocational technical programs. Maybe they became criminals and fuel the school to prison pipeline. Or they drop out. If you don't like it, work to change the law. Provide more funding for reading teachers.

Children with lower IQs may plateau. They don't plateau in kindergarten class. Think people. It's kindergarten. They're either not being taught by a good teacher. Or the teacher has her hands full. K through 3 needs extra adults in the room to help with different reading grade levels. This is just common sense and common knowledge. Are you low IQ that you think children are stupid in kindergarten?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To what extent does IQ demonstrate intelligence? To what extent does it determine one's career and success in life? Can a person of average IQ become a doctor or a lawyer if they're determined enough?

What IQ is entry level for the Nobel Prize, National Academy of Sciences etc.

Look at Elon Musk. He most likely has a higher than average IQ. He does some really stupid stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:To what extent does IQ demonstrate intelligence? To what extent does it determine one's career and success in life? Can a person of average IQ become a doctor or a lawyer if they're determined enough?

What IQ is entry level for the Nobel Prize, National Academy of Sciences etc.

Look at Elon Musk. He most likely has a higher than average IQ. He does some really stupid stuff.

He's high all the time. He does so many drugs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When IQ is very low, it matters. Just look at this most recent election.

Every election, not just this one.

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Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

I always assumed I have ok IQ since I was always in math competition teams from grade 4-12 and rank top 50 in the state. But my shitty personality, low stamina and bad social skills kept my career stagnant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

You don't understand that low IQ have no where to go. Who is being PC about it? They don't qualify for special ed. There aren't any vocational technical programs. Maybe they became criminals and fuel the school to prison pipeline. Or they drop out. If you don't like it, work to change the law. Provide more funding for reading teachers.

Children with lower IQs may plateau. They don't plateau in kindergarten class. Think people. It's kindergarten. They're either not being taught by a good teacher. Or the teacher has her hands full. K through 3 needs extra adults in the room to help with different reading grade levels. This is just common sense and common knowledge. Are you low IQ that you think children are stupid in kindergarten?

They just need to separate classes by reading level at that age. If the kid can’t read going into 1st grade then they shouldn’t be in the same room with kids that have been reading for 3 years. Nobody wins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

He took it again in high school for ADHD. He never really needed accommodations though. He said, “If I don’t know the answer, extra time won’t help me.” Good point.

So neuropsych tests for disorders Dx.

NP

Both my kids had full scale IQ tests when they were assessed for learning disabilities. Discrepancies in subtests can show up as learning disabilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

I always assumed I have ok IQ since I was always in math competition teams from grade 4-12 and rank top 50 in the state. But my shitty personality, low stamina and bad social skills kept my career stagnant.

Everyone's career has been kept stagnant. I was similarly situated, except in language arts. I won speech contests, essay contests, spelling bees, student council, on and on and on. Graduate degrees. Excellent communication skills.

It don't matter! Only the .01% are excelling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

You don't understand that low IQ have no where to go. Who is being PC about it? They don't qualify for special ed. There aren't any vocational technical programs. Maybe they became criminals and fuel the school to prison pipeline. Or they drop out. If you don't like it, work to change the law. Provide more funding for reading teachers.

Children with lower IQs may plateau. They don't plateau in kindergarten class. Think people. It's kindergarten. They're either not being taught by a good teacher. Or the teacher has her hands full. K through 3 needs extra adults in the room to help with different reading grade levels. This is just common sense and common knowledge. Are you low IQ that you think children are stupid in kindergarten?

They just need to separate classes by reading level at that age. If the kid can’t read going into 1st grade then they shouldn’t be in the same room with kids that have been reading for 3 years. Nobody wins.

That was called "tracking," and they stopped doing that in the 1980s.

As a kid who read in the highest reading book, I was alone. And I dreaded listening to the other kids read aloud. Reading aloud slows me down.

Why do think you audible and podcasts are so popular? It's not really reading. It's listening to words read aloud to you. That's not reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Why can't we re-define IQ measurements so that everyone can be high-IQ?

Wouldn't that "level the playing field," like everyone keeps talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we re-define IQ measurements so that everyone can be high-IQ?

Wouldn't that "level the playing field," like everyone keeps talking about?

There's a bell shaped curve. Most people are average.

It's why people with high IQ and low IQ don't really live great lives.

[Anonymous]

You can be US president with a low IQ. Nobel Prize winner, debatable.

[Anonymous]

Do smart people do better at life? That is your question?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

You don't understand that low IQ have no where to go. Who is being PC about it? They don't qualify for special ed. There aren't any vocational technical programs. Maybe they became criminals and fuel the school to prison pipeline. Or they drop out. If you don't like it, work to change the law. Provide more funding for reading teachers.

Children with lower IQs may plateau. They don't plateau in kindergarten class. Think people. It's kindergarten. They're either not being taught by a good teacher. Or the teacher has her hands full. K through 3 needs extra adults in the room to help with different reading grade levels. This is just common sense and common knowledge. Are you low IQ that you think children are stupid in kindergarten?

They just need to separate classes by reading level at that age. If the kid can’t read going into 1st grade then they shouldn’t be in the same room with kids that have been reading for 3 years. Nobody wins.

Kids reading at 3, you mean? They are the freaks, not 6 yo Teddy that still has trouble with double letters.