How much does IQ matter?

[Anonymous]

IQ and EQ matter, EQ probably gets you farther. Can you be a doctor with an average IQ? I know someone with an average IQ who is a nurse practitioner and makes a great living. You can certainly be a doctor with above average IQ.

Of the really high IQ people I know, only the ones with decent EQ are doing well and happy in life. The ones with low EQ were OK for a while-maybe in teens and 20s, but as they aged, the poor EQ really caused a lot of problems, and I would say the people I know from growing up, work, etc. who struggled in school and had learning issues seem to have made better choices and are more content.

The absolute worst combo IMHO is very high IQ, high sense of entitlement from parents who constantly told them they were brilliant instead of focusing on hard work and good morals, and....low EQ. I know of 3 cases where the person basically metaphorically set fire to their lives because of extreme self-absorption/entitlement/overinflated ego.

[Anonymous]

Can a casualty like hearing loss have an affect on a child’s IQ development in particular?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can a casualty like hearing loss have an affect on a child’s IQ development in particular?

It could have effects on their learning, but would not affect their intelligence, unless there was a brain injury involved in the casualty that caused the hearing loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

[Anonymous]

When people say that it’s a requirement that their partner be smart, IQ is a good proxy for that. So IQ matters if you want to attract partners who value intelligence, and many, many people do indeed value it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IQ and EQ matter, EQ probably gets you farther. Can you be a doctor with an average IQ? I know someone with an average IQ who is a nurse practitioner and makes a great living. You can certainly be a doctor with above average IQ.

Of the really high IQ people I know, only the ones with decent EQ are doing well and happy in life. The ones with low EQ were OK for a while-maybe in teens and 20s, but as they aged, the poor EQ really caused a lot of problems, and I would say the people I know from growing up, work, etc. who struggled in school and had learning issues seem to have made better choices and are more content.

The absolute worst combo IMHO is very high IQ, high sense of entitlement from parents who constantly told them they were brilliant instead of focusing on hard work and good morals, and....low EQ. I know of 3 cases where the person basically metaphorically set fire to their lives because of extreme self-absorption/entitlement/overinflated ego.

Agree, have seen too many High IQ, great academics men blow up their personal, romantic, and professional relationships with their inability to understand social norm/courtesies or care about them or communicate well. Usually avoided communications, which snowballs problems.

In many cases their parents gave up teaching manners or life habits to them, and instead raised an egotistical monster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can a casualty like hearing loss have an affect on a child’s IQ development in particular?

Actual hearing loss or Auditory Processing Disorder?
If the former they learn to read lips, read more to learn, get angering aid for the good ear or learn sign language. Professional help too.

If APD, get the ear insert for person and professor plus various therapies to focus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a kindergarten teacher and the students who struggle almost always test out with IQs in the low 70s. It takes them a very long time to learn new things. If an average kid learns letter names and sounds in the first few months of kindergarten, it takes these students until the end of the year or even into first grade to learn the same information. They fall behind from the beginning and never catch up. They just need a lot more repetition that cannot always be given in a school day. The same students who struggle in kindergarten are the same students who struggle in every subsequent grade level. Some of them have more determination but many give up by late elementary school and become behavior issues.

It’s such a travesty that these facts are being ignored. So everyone has to waste time, teachers get aggravated and quit, all because some people don’t want to face reality because it’s not PC or whatever. Very sad.

Agree, asking a k-8 teacher to teach to 3-5 different learning levels in the same classroom, same class topic absurd. And worse if ESOL too.

In the 80s and 90s there would be leveled reading and math and you’d take your textbook (gasp!) and notebook to your appropriate 3rd or 4th grade classroom for those subjects.

Unclear if this changed due to the PC police or No Child Left Behind/ Common Core curriculum and standards mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When people say that it’s a requirement that their partner be smart, IQ is a good proxy for that. So IQ matters if you want to attract partners who value intelligence, and many, many people do indeed value it.

No one has asked their date or spouse for their FSIQ number.
Through talking with them, learning their life experiences, their college, their major, their job you can figure out if there’re smart or not and if they apply themselves or not.

Mental disorders, however, can be masked for awhile by intelligence and mirroring others. Especially if single and only working and eating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To what extent does IQ demonstrate intelligence? To what extent does it determine one's career and success in life? Can a person of average IQ become a doctor or a lawyer if they're determined enough?

What IQ is entry level for the Nobel Prize, National Academy of Sciences etc.

An average IQ is between 90 and 109. What you consider average based on your neighborhood could very well be high average or superior.
IQ of 125 with a very high EQ will suit most people very well in terms of what is conventionally considered success.

This. Intelligencewise, you just have to be above average. Then success comes down to effort, resilience, EQ, and so on.

No, the point is, intelligence-wise, you just have to be above below-average. Which the majority of people are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:do you want a neurosurgeon with an average IQ?

How do you know your neurosurgeon doesn't have an average IQ? At what point is the aspiring neurosurgeon required to take a test?

I want a neurosurgeon with fine motor skills in the 99th percentile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:do you want a neurosurgeon with an average IQ?

How do you know your neurosurgeon doesn't have an average IQ? At what point is the aspiring neurosurgeon required to take a test?

Everybody takes the SAT/ACT before college and they take the MCAT before med school. It's got a strong correlation with IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

He took it again in high school for ADHD. He never really needed accommodations though. He said, “If I don’t know the answer, extra time won’t help me.” Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My average IQ son finished law school and is now a lawyer. You don’t need an above average IQ to earn multiple degrees.

Where are people taking all these IQ tests? Like for private school admittance at age 5?

He took it again in high school for ADHD. He never really needed accommodations though. He said, “If I don’t know the answer, extra time won’t help me.” Good point.

So neuropsych tests for disorders Dx.