Primetime travel baseball scumbags

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like most travel baseball orgs TBH. Nothing new.

Did they cut your kid or something?

Is soccer like this too?

No.

Soccer has the USA soccer framework so the best soccer players don't even play on their high school teams

Baseball around here is particularly bad.
I hear similar things about other sports but nothing I have heard comes close to approaching baseball.
Not basketball, not girl's volleyball, not cheer, nothing.

Almost every high school baseball coach in associated with a travel baseball team and being on that travel team is a pre-requisite for some high school teams and is highly recommended for others.
The baseball scene around here has changed dramatically in the past 5-10 years.
Baseball is a money sport now, for the most part.

Travel teams starting at 7U now.
Some organizations have 15 teams at the 13U level.

I've heard many states don't allow travel/club teams with more than half the kids from the same high school. Seems the area state athletic organizations should do the same. Would help with issues like the Hayfield scandal to boot.

Travel baseball in northern virginia is controlled by NVTBL. They are very laissez faire.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

I think we may be at the same school. My son is a freshman, but I’ve heard from parents of older players that the coach is a no-show at practices, he doesn’t form relationships with his players and doesn’t seem to really care. The coach also works at Prime Time.

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We've been happy at Metro in Springfield. I've not seen any bad behavior from coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:We've been happy at Metro in Springfield. I've not seen any bad behavior from coaches.

Metro is a hot mess. They royally screwed up the 2028 teams for years. Some older teams still have dad coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:We've been happy at Metro in Springfield. I've not seen any bad behavior from coaches.

Metro is a hot mess. They royally screwed up the 2028 teams for years. Some older teams still have dad coaches.

Metro Senators?

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Anonymous wrote:We've been happy at Metro in Springfield. I've not seen any bad behavior from coaches.

Metro is a hot mess. They royally screwed up the 2028 teams for years. Some older teams still have dad coaches.

Metro Senators?

Yes. I also understand they've stood up a 3rd 2027 team.

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Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.

Nobody should expect that from travel baseball, especially when you hit 14u or above.

The best travel programs are focused on college recruitment and will drop and add kids in a heartbeat based on talent. Their job is to constantly be in front of college coaches understanding the types of players they want and then recommending kids that satisfy the college coaches. You will never get to this level without tons of individual training and development and the best programs will pull from a wide region or even nationally, so it's not even practical to have practice and do much development.

Also, D1 colleges don't care much about development anymore either. They only want kids that they think can add direct value no later than Sophomore year, and the transfer portal just means if the kid gets too good then they may easily be out the door to a better program / program where NIL $$$s are a real possibility.

The requirement that teams can't have above a 34-person roster starting in September 2025 just adds an exclamation point that D1 schools won't over-recruit for the Fall, because they can no longer keep 45-50 players right up until the first game in Spring.

Are baseball players getting much NIL money? Thought it was primarily football and basketball players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.

Nobody should expect that from travel baseball, especially when you hit 14u or above.

The best travel programs are focused on college recruitment and will drop and add kids in a heartbeat based on talent. Their job is to constantly be in front of college coaches understanding the types of players they want and then recommending kids that satisfy the college coaches. You will never get to this level without tons of individual training and development and the best programs will pull from a wide region or even nationally, so it's not even practical to have practice and do much development.

Also, D1 colleges don't care much about development anymore either. They only want kids that they think can add direct value no later than Sophomore year, and the transfer portal just means if the kid gets too good then they may easily be out the door to a better program / program where NIL $$$s are a real possibility.

The requirement that teams can't have above a 34-person roster starting in September 2025 just adds an exclamation point that D1 schools won't over-recruit for the Fall, because they can no longer keep 45-50 players right up until the first game in Spring.

Are baseball players getting much NIL money? Thought it was primarily football and basketball players.

Depends on the school...star players at TN, UNC, Vandy and other top programs, there is NIL money. Not anything approximating what football receives, but the TN baseball players can do fairly well compared to basketball, but it's school-specific.

You also have certain schools like ECU where baseball is very popular and the other sports teams aren't that prominent nor as accomplished.

It's the booster programs at schools that move the needle. Another one, University of Miami, the boosters may step in to help out the baseball coach to throw $50k to $100k to get a star player to transfer. The overall boosters has tens of millions at their discretion.

Considering minor league players may only earn like $35k and even a first round MLB pick (say #30) may only get a $2-$3MM signing bonus...these amounts mean something to a baseball player.

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Anonymous wrote:They were great when they first started, but in the past 3-4 years, they have become a mess.
The coach affair was a one off, but that guy also got fired from the school where he coached.
Most the parent complaints I have encountered were that they were traveling really far for kids who are not eligible to be scouted, so it was a huge waste.

Which coach and which mom?

We left for another program after one of the coaches told me he "couldn't waste a jersey" on my son to be on the 'varsity team' for his age. He now plays for a club team at a D1 school where level of play is miles higher than all the usual Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, UMW D3 slubs.

Dude was a big, fat, loser.

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Anonymous wrote:State troopers should set up check points outside of the Sunday double headers. The amount of morning consumption is shocking.

+100

On all travel baseball teams! Every single travel/club baseball team my (2) kids have played on has been like this. I have been truly shocked by all the drinking (and then driving?!) both AT games and in the evenings at the hotel etc. Not all parents participate but a LOT do.

My DS played for PT years ago when there was the baseball at the beach tourney up in Rehobeth. About 6 of the moms got so trashed they went and got.... tattoos. I sh*t you not. Classy.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

BI sucked ass last Spring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

BI sucked ass last Spring.

They lost their best player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

BI sucked ass last Spring.

They lost their best player.

Right, he went to TC. They sucked too.

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Is MVP a well-run program? Seems like Madison always has strong baseball teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Is MVP a well-run program? Seems like Madison always has strong baseball teams.

The Vienna Little League is an absolute juggernaut. They have like 1000 kids. The pipeline into Madison is well stocked with talent.