Primetime travel baseball scumbags

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

BI sucked ass last Spring.

They lost their best player.

BI is not a competitive WCAC program. SJC is the top program. Gonzaga, PVI, and DeMatha just behind them. O’Connell doesn’t have a ton of depth but does have some strong individual players.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

BI sucked ass last Spring.

They lost their best player.

BI is not a competitive WCAC program. SJC is the top program. Gonzaga, PVI, and DeMatha just behind them. O’Connell doesn’t have a ton of depth but does have some strong individual players.

Yeah..has BI even made the WCAC playoffs in recent years (I think it's top 6 teams)?

Spalding is also a great team but not WCAC. Prep will be strong as well...they have the top pitcher in the area (lefty), with the STA kid just behind.

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Anonymous wrote:They were great when they first started, but in the past 3-4 years, they have become a mess.
The coach affair was a one off, but that guy also got fired from the school where he coached.
Most the parent complaints I have encountered were that they were traveling really far for kids who are not eligible to be scouted, so it was a huge waste.

Which coach and which mom?

We left for another program after one of the coaches told me he "couldn't waste a jersey" on my son to be on the 'varsity team' for his age. He now plays for a club team at a D1 school where level of play is miles higher than all the usual Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, UMW D3 slubs.

Dude was a big, fat, loser.

Wow, you didn't need to throw a bunch of hard working, talented D3 baseball players under the bus to make a point about this coach.

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With the strong headline on this topic- is Prime Time bad- or was there 1 or 2 bad coaches or people who had bad experiences. How is it currently?

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I think the consensus is that you can get lucky with a decent coach but the management/ owners are scumbags. Hope that you never have to deal with Skaggs or Berset.

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Is there a way for your child to have access to college baseball without buying into the year round travel baseball system? Can you just play on your high school team and do lots of training in the side? I saw a college recruiter on a TT say that they don’t actually scout at travel tournaments and they only pay attention to HS stats. Why is travel baseball such a huge business if this is the case?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way for your child to have access to college baseball without buying into the year round travel baseball system? Can you just play on your high school team and do lots of training in the side? I saw a college recruiter on a TT say that they don’t actually scout at travel tournaments and they only pay attention to HS stats. Why is travel baseball such a huge business if this is the case?

Yeah. Your kid has to be a stand out. That's all colleges are looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way for your child to have access to college baseball without buying into the year round travel baseball system? Can you just play on your high school team and do lots of training in the side? I saw a college recruiter on a TT say that they don’t actually scout at travel tournaments and they only pay attention to HS stats. Why is travel baseball such a huge business if this is the case?

For Baseball- this is not true. Colleges recruit more travel in summer / fall about 90% Maybe about 10% hs in person.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been tons of rumors at our private school that they have been trying to get rid of our baseball coach for a really long time but have had zero luck finding a good replacement. What is the deal with that? Why aren’t there any good baseball coaches out there? I assume they need a college graduate that can do a job at the school as well. Any good players get recruited to other programs at Gonzaga or BI and it’s been happening for ten years or more. I think the school started caring when a few big donor legacy families left. The coach doesn’t have a reputation that is overwhelmingly good or bad. I know he is known for not answering emails and not recruiting.

I think we may be at the same school. My son is a freshman, but I’ve heard from parents of older players that the coach is a no-show at practices, he doesn’t form relationships with his players and doesn’t seem to really care. The coach also works at Prime Time.

SSSAS

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Anonymous wrote:Oh lord… I wish I had seen this thread 3 years ago. You can get lucky with a good coach but once you deal with the owners/ organization, any sensible person would run. All of these stories are very true, but I will add that some coaches are decent. My older son was being given the typical run around for years and we decided to jump on an opportunity for him to play up on a less serious team with friends. We declined a primetime offer and then they retaliated against my younger son who is 9. His team was pretty terrible and only won three games. He was one of the best players on the team. I am saying that objectively. He is a great player. He has his problems but he can play sport ball. He even won the game ball after throwing an incredible 75 pitches and winning one of only three games that they won all season. He was cut 4 days later and placed on a newly formed B team (created to pay bills on old debts). It was certainly retaliation for us declining the older child’s offer. They def didn’t want my older son on the team but I heard lots of jokes and chatter about us paying the bills for Cooperstown. The team expected us to tap our wealthy family to foot the bill for their vacation. They even planned to “fundraise” for a team parent house and when I said, I don't plan on staying at an Airbnb with all the other parents they had to cancel the idea and one parent joked, “but how are we going to get your family to pay for our house then?” So if there was animosity about us leaving, it was entirely based on fundraising efforts. We declined the B team offer for my younger child and I sent an email to the owner explaining why. He wanted a phone call with me to dress me down and explain how travel baseball works. I offered him a call with my husband. He told my husband that we need to understand when making decisions for our children that they will remember our name and that they “hold a grudge”. They threatened us over a choice we made for our 9 year old! Just to warn anyone who is currently on a primetime team, you’ll have to move away to get out of that situation, otherwise they will hold a grudge. Walk away very very slowly because even if they don’t play your kid, they want your money and will hold a grudge if you take it away.

The biggest issue is that they have coaches at both Yorktown and O’Connell… So if your kid wants to play there, you have to “play the game” with primetime.

None of the 2025 O'Connell commits played for Primetime (at least as their most recent team)...maybe it's more important at Yorktown.

The new O'Connell coach is a PT coach....

Why did the former O’Connell coach get fired?

I love to know this too because our kids have taken a bunch of camps with him and he is a super nice guy. He’s also now partnering with Kurt over at ignite to run a bunch of clinics. My kids have always loved his camps. The “story“ Our team heard is that some O’Connell player got severely injured in the weight room and it was due to poor supervision/practices and someone needed to take the fall. But that doesn’t seem to add up to me.

This is like third hand from my student, but apparently it happened during a fitness class during the regular school day and surveillance footage showed he was on his phone the whole time. He was fired as a teacher first, then as head coach second.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way for your child to have access to college baseball without buying into the year round travel baseball system? Can you just play on your high school team and do lots of training in the side? I saw a college recruiter on a TT say that they don’t actually scout at travel tournaments and they only pay attention to HS stats. Why is travel baseball such a huge business if this is the case?

I find it hard to believe because baseball is an inefficient “recruiting” sport in general except for pitchers.

College coaches don’t pay attention to GameChanger stats and it’s not that it’s travel teams that get you recruited but rather playing at tournaments where there are maybe 10 fields all in one location and a coach can view hundreds of players in one five hour period.

Now, if you play for a top program like Harvard Westlake or Corona in CA or even say SJC in the DMV, they are likely to trust what your HS coach tells a college coach…but even SJC has their Cadets travel program that will go down to GA to play.

Also, everyone has their school season at the same time…Spring…so college coaches aren’t usually spending time trying to see a prospect play in-season because they are busy with their own teams.

Pitchers are easier because you can view footage and just need to verify that if the kid says they throw 95…that they actually throw 95. Position player recruiting is much trickier.

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Some of these private coaches are terrible too. They sell you a bill of goods like Pitchers Edge so you keep paying for their overpriced lessons when they know you are not going to get recruited. It's all for $$$.

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The PG and Prep Baseball tournaments are not what they once were. Because of the portal and other NCAA changes colleges have moved their recruiting resources to the summer college leagues. For the vast majority of players you are better off going to specific college coach camps.

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Anonymous wrote:The PG and Prep Baseball tournaments are not what they once were. Because of the portal and other NCAA changes colleges have moved their recruiting resources to the summer college leagues. For the vast majority of players you are better off going to specific college coach camps.

Agree - this is the best bang for the buck. But... kids have to be sharp when they show up to camp and the reps they get in travel games get them there. I wish it wasn't this way but I don't see a better option. NVBTL games just don't have the level of competition as travel tourneys.

To PP who decided that D3 sports is worthless - you're wrong. Employers value student athletes no matter the level. They're hard workers who know how to compete and win. The world needs more of these types of kids, not fewer.

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Also what about playing D3 because you love the sport and want to play as long as you can? Sadly the love of the sport doesn’t seem to register for parents who just want to brag on social media. Maybe let your kid enjoy what they do.