Primetime travel baseball scumbags

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.

That’s one way to be sure Larlo plays shortstop and bats fourth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.

That’s one way to be sure Larlo plays shortstop and bats fourth.

Meanwhile, Dad is paying $$$ to the coach for private lessons for the kid. OOF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were great when they first started, but in the past 3-4 years, they have become a mess.
The coach affair was a one off, but that guy also got fired from the school where he coached.
Most the parent complaints I have encountered were that they were traveling really far for kids who are not eligible to be scouted, so it was a huge waste.

I have zero experience with Primetim but this sounds juicy! Tell us more please!!

Fired for an affair? That seems a bit much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They were great when they first started, but in the past 3-4 years, they have become a mess.
The coach affair was a one off, but that guy also got fired from the school where he coached.
Most the parent complaints I have encountered were that they were traveling really far for kids who are not eligible to be scouted, so it was a huge waste.

I have zero experience with Primetim but this sounds juicy! Tell us more please!!

Apparently catholic schools frown upon married men doing that.

Fired for an affair? That seems a bit much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.

Nobody should expect that from travel baseball, especially when you hit 14u or above.

The best travel programs are focused on college recruitment and will drop and add kids in a heartbeat based on talent. Their job is to constantly be in front of college coaches understanding the types of players they want and then recommending kids that satisfy the college coaches. You will never get to this level without tons of individual training and development and the best programs will pull from a wide region or even nationally, so it's not even practical to have practice and do much development.

Also, D1 colleges don't care much about development anymore either. They only want kids that they think can add direct value no later than Sophomore year, and the transfer portal just means if the kid gets too good then they may easily be out the door to a better program / program where NIL $$$s are a real possibility.

The requirement that teams can't have above a 34-person roster starting in September 2025 just adds an exclamation point that D1 schools won't over-recruit for the Fall, because they can no longer keep 45-50 players right up until the first game in Spring.

To be fair, what parent should be thrilled about putting in a ton of their own money and work, plus the kid putting in countless hours (yes on something they love, but still) in order to profit first the travel ball org and then a college baseball program? Sounds miserable.

I would think there's still a level of travel ball below the recruitment focused one where kids are just there to play, be good enough to play high school, and not make money for an org. Of course then you are probably dealing with Daddy Ball.

There are teams that fall between House/Rec leagues and this type of "Recruitment is Everything" type of travel organization. DS plays for Koa Waves and they are more focused on helping boys make their high school team (vs college recruitment) and keep the tournament schedules at a minimum (usually they are local and 2-3 a season). DS made his HS team, continues to plays with his Koa team (except in the Spring when they take a break), and does hitting/training/pitching elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Original post all true. Don’t know specifics of federal investigation.

Coach and Mom were both married to others, but still together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original post all true. Don’t know specifics of federal investigation.

Coach and Mom were both married to others, but still together.

One of the couple’s was either separated/divorcing. Either way, not ok to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original post all true. Don’t know specifics of federal investigation.

Coach and Mom were both married to others, but still together.

Is said coach still listed on their web site?

[Anonymous]

Switch to lacrosse. Baseball is a dying boring sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Original post all true. Don’t know specifics of federal investigation.

Coach and Mom were both married to others, but still together.

They hired the one under investigation when you could very easily google his name and find it. Primetime didn’t care. He was a wealthy dad. He was very trumpy and under investigation for price gauging covid supplies. Primetime paid him to coach for at least two years. I think He was eventually pushed out for cancelling too many practices and all the parents complained.

[Anonymous]

State troopers should set up check points outside of the Sunday double headers. The amount of morning consumption is shocking.

[Anonymous]

Oh lord… I wish I had seen this thread 3 years ago. You can get lucky with a good coach but once you deal with the owners/ organization, any sensible person would run. All of these stories are very true, but I will add that some coaches are decent. My older son was being given the typical run around for years and we decided to jump on an opportunity for him to play up on a less serious team with friends. We declined a primetime offer and then they retaliated against my younger son who is 9. His team was pretty terrible and only won three games. He was one of the best players on the team. I am saying that objectively. He is a great player. He has his problems but he can play sport ball. He even won the game ball after throwing an incredible 75 pitches and winning one of only three games that they won all season. He was cut 4 days later and placed on a newly formed B team (created to pay bills on old debts). It was certainly retaliation for us declining the older child’s offer. They def didn’t want my older son on the team but I heard lots of jokes and chatter about us paying the bills for Cooperstown. The team expected us to tap our wealthy family to foot the bill for their vacation. They even planned to “fundraise” for a team parent house and when I said, I don't plan on staying at an Airbnb with all the other parents they had to cancel the idea and one parent joked, “but how are we going to get your family to pay for our house then?” So if there was animosity about us leaving, it was entirely based on fundraising efforts. We declined the B team offer for my younger child and I sent an email to the owner explaining why. He wanted a phone call with me to dress me down and explain how travel baseball works. I offered him a call with my husband. He told my husband that we need to understand when making decisions for our children that they will remember our name and that they “hold a grudge”. They threatened us over a choice we made for our 9 year old! Just to warn anyone who is currently on a primetime team, you’ll have to move away to get out of that situation, otherwise they will hold a grudge. Walk away very very slowly because even if they don’t play your kid, they want your money and will hold a grudge if you take it away.

[Anonymous]

They have 7 teams at the 15U or 16U level?!?!?

That's when most orgs downsize their teams as kids lose interest in baseball around 14 or 15.

that's a huge red flag

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh lord… I wish I had seen this thread 3 years ago. You can get lucky with a good coach but once you deal with the owners/ organization, any sensible person would run. All of these stories are very true, but I will add that some coaches are decent. My older son was being given the typical run around for years and we decided to jump on an opportunity for him to play up on a less serious team with friends. We declined a primetime offer and then they retaliated against my younger son who is 9. His team was pretty terrible and only won three games. He was one of the best players on the team. I am saying that objectively. He is a great player. He has his problems but he can play sport ball. He even won the game ball after throwing an incredible 75 pitches and winning one of only three games that they won all season. He was cut 4 days later and placed on a newly formed B team (created to pay bills on old debts). It was certainly retaliation for us declining the older child’s offer. They def didn’t want my older son on the team but I heard lots of jokes and chatter about us paying the bills for Cooperstown. The team expected us to tap our wealthy family to foot the bill for their vacation. They even planned to “fundraise” for a team parent house and when I said, I don't plan on staying at an Airbnb with all the other parents they had to cancel the idea and one parent joked, “but how are we going to get your family to pay for our house then?” So if there was animosity about us leaving, it was entirely based on fundraising efforts. We declined the B team offer for my younger child and I sent an email to the owner explaining why. He wanted a phone call with me to dress me down and explain how travel baseball works. I offered him a call with my husband. He told my husband that we need to understand when making decisions for our children that they will remember our name and that they “hold a grudge”. They threatened us over a choice we made for our 9 year old! Just to warn anyone who is currently on a primetime team, you’ll have to move away to get out of that situation, otherwise they will hold a grudge. Walk away very very slowly because even if they don’t play your kid, they want your money and will hold a grudge if you take it away.

The biggest issue is that they have coaches at both Yorktown and O’Connell… So if your kid wants to play there, you have to “play the game” with primetime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:State troopers should set up check points outside of the Sunday double headers. The amount of morning consumption is shocking.

Say What do you want primetime, but My kid has played travel baseball for five years, including at primetime and this has never been an issue, not once.