When do Cogat scores come back?

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Is your child's NNAT score in the 90%+ ? Is your child intellectually curious? Is your child able to focus on certain thing he/she interested in for a long time? Can you have an intelligent conversation with your child?

You forgot “is your child neurotypical?” Trust me, your child can be all of those other things but low support needs autistic and you won’t get a placement.

This just isn't true. My kid's center class has multiple students with ADHD and/or Autism - it's over 1/4 of the class.

I have two kids in AAP. Can’t think of any autistic kids but there are a few kids with ADHD.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect one reason they might be doing it this way is so that families do not wait to see scores before deciding whether or not to refer. This way, the scores are not overweighted by families. It's clear FCPS wants to reduce the emphasis on scores. But I think this could cut both ways--a family might ignore all the messages about AAP without seeing scores. (My school sent out quite a few messages reminding parents of the deadline to refer.) However, let's say a family ignores the messages, if the child is in pool, they get considered anyway, so no harm no foul. So maybe the end result is a more diverse pool to evaluate? Just some arm chair speculation while I impatiently wait for the scores...

I was thinking the same. I am not sure it makes a ton of sense because it seems the best way to help families make the right choice re: referring is to give them all available info, and I am sure the cogat results are available.

The parent referral process itself is pretty unfair and arbitrator. It was not a small amount of work to put together those packets and the questions are odd. I write persuasively for a living and found it difficult to fill it out. Finding work samples that fit the size requirements and looked okay scanned was a pain. I have a hunch that the parent submission is basically ignored but is included as an option so people feel like they had input into the process.

Agree...Parent referrals are just a way for them to gauge how many parents want their kids in, and who will be appealing/referring again next year if their kids don't get in. Eventually all the kids who are reasonably qualified (good scores and grades) will get in, although it might take a few years or the parents might give up.

There's one piece everyone forgets about the parent referral. The AART sees everything you write before the in-school committee does their part of the packet. You think those little anecdotes don't have an impact, or perhaps remind teachers of something that happened in class as well (back when they did a ton of writing to put together GBRSes, at least, but even with HOPE)?

Parent referral is required by the state, so it's not going away.

At least in my school, the HOPE was filled out in Nov. way before any cogat or referral kicks in.

I know some schools do it this way, but this is insane. Our school does the every-kid-gets-a-HOPE in late April/early May when they evaluate everyone for level II and level III. They do the 2nd grade HOPEs in February when teachers mysteriously disappear from 2nd grade classes for meetings on and off for a few days.

I would think kids at schools who do it this way would be disadvantaged, but I guess HOPE doesn't require the same write-ups with examples that GBRS did.

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Anonymous wrote:

Is your child's NNAT score in the 90%+ ? Is your child intellectually curious? Is your child able to focus on certain thing he/she interested in for a long time? Can you have an intelligent conversation with your child?

You forgot “is your child neurotypical?” Trust me, your child can be all of those other things but low support needs autistic and you won’t get a placement.

This just isn't true. My kid's center class has multiple students with ADHD and/or Autism - it's over 1/4 of the class.

Hooray for you, but my experience is that if an ND kid gets into AAP their needs won't be met. It's either or. Wait until secondary if you don't believe me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Is your child's NNAT score in the 90%+ ? Is your child intellectually curious? Is your child able to focus on certain thing he/she interested in for a long time? Can you have an intelligent conversation with your child?

You forgot “is your child neurotypical?” Trust me, your child can be all of those other things but low support needs autistic and you won’t get a placement.

This just isn't true. My kid's center class has multiple students with ADHD and/or Autism - it's over 1/4 of the class.

Hooray for you, but my experience is that if an ND kid gets into AAP their needs won't be met. It's either or. Wait until secondary if you don't believe me.

So where should they belong to? Do you think they should belong to Special education group?

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Is your child's NNAT score in the 90%+ ? Is your child intellectually curious? Is your child able to focus on certain thing he/she interested in for a long time? Can you have an intelligent conversation with your child?

You forgot “is your child neurotypical?” Trust me, your child can be all of those other things but low support needs autistic and you won’t get a placement.

This just isn't true. My kid's center class has multiple students with ADHD and/or Autism - it's over 1/4 of the class.

Hooray for you, but my experience is that if an ND kid gets into AAP their needs won't be met. It's either or. Wait until secondary if you don't believe me.

So where should they belong to? Do you think they should belong to Special education group?

Special Education and AAP are not mutually exclusive. There is a Twice Exceptional Hndbook if you need it. https://www.fcps.edu/academics/twice-exceptional-2e-learners

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Just got the raw score home in my kid’s folder. No local scores yet, and it’s not in ParentVue.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the raw score home in my kid’s folder. No local scores yet, and it’s not in ParentVue.

What are raw score and local score?

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I’m not actually sure what the local score represents, but it’s blank on our form. The raw score is the number of questions correct. There’s also a grade percentile rank that’s included.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not actually sure what the local score represents, but it’s blank on our form. The raw score is the number of questions correct. There’s also a grade percentile rank that’s included.

Is the percentile school based or nationwide?

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Where is your kid’s raw scores?

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the raw score home in my kid’s folder. No local scores yet, and it’s not in ParentVue.

What? What does the raw score even look like? I've never heard of a raw score being sent to parents separately. I guess anything is possible with FCPS. So confusing.

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Just received the automatic pool notification letter via email 22033

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not actually sure what the local score represents, but it’s blank on our form. The raw score is the number of questions correct. There’s also a grade percentile rank that’s included.

Do you care to share how your child did or raw score or grade percentile?

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The raw score has three separate columns— number of items, number attempted, and number correct. And then there’s a category for “grade scores” that includes a column for “grade stanine” and “grade percentile rank.” There is a separate column for local scores that is blank.

I have no clue if the grade percentile rank is school-based, locality-based, or nationwide.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not actually sure what the local score represents, but it’s blank on our form. The raw score is the number of questions correct. There’s also a grade percentile rank that’s included.

Do you care to share how your child did or raw score or grade percentile?

Sure. Raw score verbal 34/36, 99th percentile. Raw score quantitative 44/50, 98th percentile. Raw school nonverbal 48/52, 99th percentile.