Arlington schools, impact of new administration

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Anonymous wrote:I’m reading on the Arlington Education Matters Facebook page teachers are stressed and concerned about the election and impacts to teachers. They mention the elimination of DOE and concern with teachers already being short staffed and overworked. I also see Arlington parents complaining about amount of time it takes to get grades back and responsiveness of counselors who are supporting a large number of students.

Isn’t it a huge plus, the removal of illegals that the new administration is promising? This could significantly reduce the number of students and the numbers that need extra support. It seems to me this is a big upside to reduce crowding and stress on our teachers, school administrators and school infrastructure.


The kids are American citizens


Your delusional if you think Arlington doesn’t have a large illegal population


OK, but tons of those kids were born here and are citizens and have equal rights to you


Then they aren’t getting deported


Yeah, that's my point

and if they live in Arlington they are paying (through rent) property taxes and car taxes and sales taxes etc so their families are paying for the schools....?



Undocumented immigrants generally do not pay their fair share of taxes compared to citizens, and here’s why:

Lack of Income Tax Contributions: Many undocumented immigrants work in jobs that pay cash "under the table," avoiding income taxes entirely. This means they do not contribute to federal and state income taxes, which fund critical services such as education, healthcare, and infrastructure.

No Contributions to Social Security and Medicare: In "under-the-table" employment situations, undocumented workers also avoid paying into Social Security and Medicare. These are essential programs that legal residents pay into throughout their working lives, providing a safety net for older adults and those in need of medical assistance.

Limited Property Tax Contributions: While some undocumented immigrants may rent properties, they do not directly pay property taxes. Property taxes are often the primary source of funding for local public schools and other municipal services. The indirect contribution through rent is generally lower than what homeowners pay directly, and it doesn’t fully account for the services used by these families.

Minimal Contribution via Sales Taxes: Although undocumented immigrants do pay sales taxes on goods they buy, these contributions are relatively minor compared to income and property taxes. Sales taxes alone are insufficient to cover the public services used by all residents.

Higher Use of Public Services: Because many undocumented immigrants are in lower-income brackets, they often rely more heavily on public resources such as education and emergency healthcare services. The demand for these services increases costs for taxpayers, yet without equivalent contributions from undocumented workers to offset these expenses.

While undocumented immigrants do contribute in small ways, the lack of income tax, Social Security, Medicare, and direct property tax contributions means they do not pay their share like citizens, placing a disproportionate burden on tax-funded services.


They pay social security taxes. Folks use old work authorization numbers, made up numbers, stolen numbers, etc. Employers are required to ask for proof of work eligibility they are NOT required to verify it. Plenty of undocumented workers pay into the system. They also pay income tax. Not everyone that is undocumented works under the table.

They paid an estimated 96.7 billion in federal, state and local taxes in 2022. 59.4 billion of which went to the federal gov.

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/


But how much did they take from the government? If it's not significantly less, then all they did is steal finite funds for services from lower class citizens while depressing wages.


PP posted a story about that too. They are net benefit to economy.


That Bloomberg article is worthless. It doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants nor does it state how much in services they leech off of low income citizens. It also doesn't say anything about how many illegals send usd back home and this money isn't being spent locally. Also no mention of there being at least 25 million illegals and they're certainly not close to all being law-abiding, tax paying family units. "Benefit to the economy" does not reflect the depletion of finite resources at the local level, and that includes public schools and hospitals.
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?
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Yes, they can. No wonder there’s a big wave of conservative politicians.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m reading on the Arlington Education Matters Facebook page teachers are stressed and concerned about the election and impacts to teachers. They mention the elimination of DOE and concern with teachers already being short staffed and overworked. I also see Arlington parents complaining about amount of time it takes to get grades back and responsiveness of counselors who are supporting a large number of students.

Isn’t it a huge plus, the removal of illegals that the new administration is promising? This could significantly reduce the number of students and the numbers that need extra support. It seems to me this is a big upside to reduce crowding and stress on our teachers, school administrators and school infrastructure.


The kids are American citizens


Your delusional if you think Arlington doesn’t have a large illegal population


OK, but tons of those kids were born here and are citizens and have equal rights to you


Then they aren’t getting deported


Yeah, that's my point

and if they live in Arlington they are paying (through rent) property taxes and car taxes and sales taxes etc so their families are paying for the schools....?



Undocumented immigrants generally do not pay their fair share of taxes compared to citizens, and here’s why:

Lack of Income Tax Contributions: Many undocumented immigrants work in jobs that pay cash "under the table," avoiding income taxes entirely. This means they do not contribute to federal and state income taxes, which fund critical services such as education, healthcare, and infrastructure.

No Contributions to Social Security and Medicare: In "under-the-table" employment situations, undocumented workers also avoid paying into Social Security and Medicare. These are essential programs that legal residents pay into throughout their working lives, providing a safety net for older adults and those in need of medical assistance.

Limited Property Tax Contributions: While some undocumented immigrants may rent properties, they do not directly pay property taxes. Property taxes are often the primary source of funding for local public schools and other municipal services. The indirect contribution through rent is generally lower than what homeowners pay directly, and it doesn’t fully account for the services used by these families.

Minimal Contribution via Sales Taxes: Although undocumented immigrants do pay sales taxes on goods they buy, these contributions are relatively minor compared to income and property taxes. Sales taxes alone are insufficient to cover the public services used by all residents.

Higher Use of Public Services: Because many undocumented immigrants are in lower-income brackets, they often rely more heavily on public resources such as education and emergency healthcare services. The demand for these services increases costs for taxpayers, yet without equivalent contributions from undocumented workers to offset these expenses.

While undocumented immigrants do contribute in small ways, the lack of income tax, Social Security, Medicare, and direct property tax contributions means they do not pay their share like citizens, placing a disproportionate burden on tax-funded services.


They pay social security taxes. Folks use old work authorization numbers, made up numbers, stolen numbers, etc. Employers are required to ask for proof of work eligibility they are NOT required to verify it. Plenty of undocumented workers pay into the system. They also pay income tax. Not everyone that is undocumented works under the table.

They paid an estimated 96.7 billion in federal, state and local taxes in 2022. 59.4 billion of which went to the federal gov.

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/


But how much did they take from the government? If it's not significantly less, then all they did is steal finite funds for services from lower class citizens while depressing wages.


PP posted a story about that too. They are net benefit to economy.


That Bloomberg article is worthless. It doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants nor does it state how much in services they leech off of low income citizens. It also doesn't say anything about how many illegals send usd back home and this money isn't being spent locally. Also no mention of there being at least 25 million illegals and they're certainly not close to all being law-abiding, tax paying family units. "Benefit to the economy" does not reflect the depletion of finite resources at the local level, and that includes public schools and hospitals.


AEI source says a surge of 9 million more illegal immigrants and it is a net benefit to economy.

Mass deportation of current undocumented would raise prices for everything and hurt the economy. Trump’s policies stink.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?


Yes you can.
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Anonymous wrote:Do people even understand how many federal education rights people take advantage of. People are going to be super happy when their IEPs disappear and education is left completely up to the states.


Well, the MAGA will be happy because all of the ESL and IEP students will be warehoused in special schools/classes, and the real American kids will get a 50s style education.


Because obviously all kids are the same and should all be taught in the same classroom. The backlash is because of snowflake parents like you who think that it's okay for your kid to hold the rest of the class back. If you aren't okay with tracked classrooms in the same building then the alternative I guess is having different buildings. And before you say it, no normal kid needs sensitivity training for 8 hours a day at school. They can get it at other places.


Like I said, you will be happy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?


Yes you can.


Better question —

If an illegal immigrant gives birth in the UK or EU, is the child given citizenship?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?


Yes you can.


Better question —

If an illegal immigrant gives birth in the UK or EU, is the child given citizenship?


Finally something you know the facts on because you’ve been wrong on everything else.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?


Yes you can.


Better question —

If an illegal immigrant gives birth in the UK or EU, is the child given citizenship?


Finally something you know the facts on because you’ve been wrong on everything else.


What’s the answer?
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Because if we’re arguing that entire families of illegal immigrants should get to stay in the US because their child was born here and is a US citizen, let’s follow other countries and end unrestricted birthright citizenship.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if mass deportations happen, people will reconsider coming in the first place.

The system as it is kind of entices migrants to make the trip. Free school, free healthcare, free xyz… Deportations would be painful, but things can’t keep going as they are.


You are an idiot. They are not eligible for most federal benefits.


Oh really?

Do public schools turn them away? No.

Do public hospitals turn them away? Also no.


I said “most” federal benefits. Their kids can attend schools and they can get emergency medical care at hospitals. They don’t get food stamps or housing or things like that.


You act like that’s not a lot of benefits…

Can I be an illegal immigrant in the UK or EU and just send my kid to school?


Yes you can.


Better question —

If an illegal immigrant gives birth in the UK or EU, is the child given citizenship?


Finally something you know the facts on because you’ve been wrong on everything else.


What’s the answer?


New poster. I believe each country has different rules. I know in some that north alone does NOT equal citizenship.
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Birth, not north.
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Is most countries, birth does not equal citizenship. It’s completely reasonable to eliminate it.
Anonymous
To all the nativists, good luck eliminating birthright citizenship, which is enshrined in the Constitution as a corrective to SLAVERY.
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Anonymous wrote:To all the nativists, good luck eliminating birthright citizenship, which is enshrined in the Constitution as a corrective to SLAVERY.


Not impossible to do. Take a look at our next President, Senate, House, and the current SC.

I wish we could eliminate unrestricted access to guns AS WELL AS birthright citizenship.

(Clearly my wish for gun control ain’t gonna happen in the next few years 😔)
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