If you are anti bussing for boundaries

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At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.

Very good idea. It serves both purpose. Low hanging fruits to be honest.

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DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

This is a good point? Our school has limited AP's and no advanced math or sciences. They need to bring these classes to all schools.

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Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

Most of the DCC high schools are overcrowded. If you actually want to address overcrowding in the DCC with the new HS and resulting boundary changes, you will have to move a lot of students around. And you can't move them all to Woodward as there isn't enough space there. Both Whitman and BCC are currently underutilized. One option would be to move Woodlin ES, currently zoned for Einstein and is already pretty far from Einstein, to BCC and another BCC feeder to Whitman. Unfortunately, that would increase segregation because Woodlin is one of the highest income ESs in the DCC.

At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.

BCC had an expansion a few years ago so it's not over capacity like WJ, but it's not underutilized either. It's basically at capacity (2400 students.) You can't move another feeder school there.

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Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

Most of the DCC high schools are overcrowded. If you actually want to address overcrowding in the DCC with the new HS and resulting boundary changes, you will have to move a lot of students around. And you can't move them all to Woodward as there isn't enough space there. Both Whitman and BCC are currently underutilized. One option would be to move Woodlin ES, currently zoned for Einstein and is already pretty far from Einstein, to BCC and another BCC feeder to Whitman. Unfortunately, that would increase segregation because Woodlin is one of the highest income ESs in the DCC.

At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.

BCC had an expansion a few years ago so it's not over capacity like WJ, but it's not underutilized either. It's basically at capacity (2400 students.) You can't move another feeder school there.

They would have to move a BCC school to Whitman, then move an Einstein school to BCC.

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Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Why do people answer questions that OP clearly lacks the cranial capacity to understand the answers for?

Who says "we love that bus ride to the magnet!"?

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

Thef s because Blair is NOT a pure magnet, so of course it ranks lower than pure magnets.

I can see why your family needs to spend every penny on college preparation. You're starting on the back foot.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

This is a good point? Our school has limited AP's and no advanced math or sciences. They need to bring these classes to all schools.

There is no MCPS school that is not offering APs because there are not enough resources. They do not offer many APs because the cohort of prepared and capable students is too low to justify them. Have you looked at the AP scores for the courses that your school does offer?

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

This is a good point? Our school has limited AP's and no advanced math or sciences. They need to bring these classes to all schools.

There is no MCPS school that is not offering APs because there are not enough resources. They do not offer many APs because the cohort of prepared and capable students is too low to justify them. Have you looked at the AP scores for the courses that your school does offer?

Or because they're an IB school and they offer IB courses instead.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

Thef s because Blair is NOT a pure magnet, so of course it ranks lower than pure magnets.

I can see why your family needs to spend every penny on college preparation. You're starting on the back foot.

Using the excuse that Blair is “not a pure magnet”? Okay. Here’s a different ranking site. Ranking factors include state test scores, college readiness, graduation rates, teacher quality, and magnet school ratings. SAT/ACT scores, etc.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-magnet-high-schools/s/maryland/

What’s the excuse now? ‘Not a pure magnet’? Guess what. Neither is Poolesville.

At some point MCPS either needs to accept the AEI failure and resolve to fix it, or blog on anonymous websites how everyone has Blair Envy and ‘start on the back foot’, although I never heard that weird meme before, and a little strange? Guess you were in a hurry to post a slight?

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Had to look it up. Are you from India or UK maybe? Not a common insult here.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

Thef s because Blair is NOT a pure magnet, so of course it ranks lower than pure magnets.

I can see why your family needs to spend every penny on college preparation. You're starting on the back foot.

Using the excuse that Blair is “not a pure magnet”? Okay. Here’s a different ranking site. Ranking factors include state test scores, college readiness, graduation rates, teacher quality, and magnet school ratings. SAT/ACT scores, etc.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-magnet-high-schools/s/maryland/

What’s the excuse now? ‘Not a pure magnet’? Guess what. Neither is Poolesville.

At some point MCPS either needs to accept the AEI failure and resolve to fix it, or blog on anonymous websites how everyone has Blair Envy and ‘start on the back foot’, although I never heard that weird meme before, and a little strange? Guess you were in a hurry to post a slight?

Blair has so few magnet students that Niche doesn't even consider Blair a magnet school.

https://www.niche.com/k12/montgomery-blair-high-school-silver-spring-md/

Poolesville is half the size of Blair, and has 3 magnet programs to Blair's 2 magnet programs. Poolesville non-magnet serves a wealthier, less diverse population than Blair non-magnet population.

How stupid can you be? What point are you even trying to make?
Why are you so focused on Blair, a school whose basic structure you know nothing about?

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Anonymous wrote:Had to look it up. Are you from India or UK maybe? Not a common insult here.

Boasting about your unfamiliarity with the bradth of the English language?
Really doubling down on your ignorance there.

("Doubling down" is a slang term, from the game blackjack. It means increasing your commitment to your position, despite it being a risky choice.)

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Anonymous wrote:DP. One word - academics. If MCPS had all top-notch, physically-safe schools, I doubt any parents would complain. But MCPS isn't a top-notch district anymore. It's a top-heavy, political-game-playing bureaucracy.

Take Blair as an example. It's supposedly the "star" of MCPS' Magnet Program. It's #31 in the State, #438 as a STEM, and #1,736 in National Rankings. That's below WJ, Northwest, Clarksburg, Wheaton. Even as a pure Magnet, the best-of-the-best in the County, it's only #186 of 857. Given the resources and "Blair envy" bravado poured into the program, that's just plain embarrassing. Why wasn't every six-figure member of AEI fired for this complete failure? Good question.

As a parent, I want to give my kids the best chance at entering into a serious academic program, and that means the best college preparation possible with every penny my family has. My child is not an MCPS social experiment. If you want to play with someone's future, do it with your own child - not mine.

This is a good point? Our school has limited AP's and no advanced math or sciences. They need to bring these classes to all schools.

No, not a point at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Had to look it up. Are you from India or UK maybe? Not a common insult here.

Boasting about your unfamiliarity with the bradth of the English language?
Really doubling down on your ignorance there.

("Doubling down" is a slang term, from the game blackjack. It means increasing your commitment to your position, despite it being a risky choice.)

A gambling analogy? The original quote was "you're starting on the back foot" and you misspelled "breadth" (as in a wide range or extent)?

Seriously, if you're on the sauce, sober up. Drinking and gambling isn't a formula for life success.