If you are anti bussing for boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bussing discussion was 6 years ago. We don't have enough buses or drivers. They should not offer busing to magnets and parents should supply it.

No bussing is offered to consortia/choice programs, and the impact of magnet buses is pretty negligible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Your question does not make sense. Magnet is a voluntary program. It's not forced bussing. So not wanting forced bussing to far-away places and having the choice to bus to a magnet program is not inconsistent.

FWIW my kid attends a magnet and many of their classmates who live far way prefer not to ride the magnet buses and get to school via carpools.

The question stands as ousted because it’s the sane people who oppose forced busdjng because it’s not a choice, who do then choose to bus their kids to a magnet program. It makes no sense to me to put a MS kid on a bus at 0620 to bus then an hour away just for a magnet program.

[Anonymous]

Sorry about typos. Haven’t got my glasses on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Because the kids that get bussed to magnets EARNED their spots. They didn't get their spots because some one feels sorry for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Because the kids that get bussed to magnets EARNED their spots. They didn't get their spots because some one feels sorry for them.

No, it’s still a lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Because the kids that get bussed to magnets EARNED their spots. They didn't get their spots because some one feels sorry for them.

No, it’s still a lottery.

A lottery of the very best students for MS maybe. HS it's not a lottery of any sort.

[Anonymous]

This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Because the kids that get bussed to magnets EARNED their spots. They didn't get their spots because some one feels sorry for them.

No, it’s still a lottery.

It's not a random lottery. You are misinformed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

Because the kids that get bussed to magnets EARNED their spots. They didn't get their spots because some one feels sorry for them.

No, it’s still a lottery.

A lottery of the very best students for MS maybe. HS it's not a lottery of any sort.

Yes it partly is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bring magnet functions and quantum physics to my W school and I’ll stay home.

Rather than bussing anyone all over the county, they need to offer the same courses at all the HS.

Exactly. The entire magnet program was built on the premise of bussing.

We are only putting this program in XYZ school. Since you don't live over here, we'll bus you in to fill the seat and bring up our MD and national test scores.

OP, do you understand the magnet program?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

They would obviously have to reassign students currently bussed to Einstein so that more students who could walk to Einstein could go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

Most of the DCC high schools are overcrowded. If you actually want to address overcrowding in the DCC with the new HS and resulting boundary changes, you will have to move a lot of students around. And you can't move them all to Woodward as there isn't enough space there. Both Whitman and BCC are currently underutilized. One option would be to move Woodlin ES, currently zoned for Einstein and is already pretty far from Einstein, to BCC and another BCC feeder to Whitman. Unfortunately, that would increase segregation because Woodlin is one of the highest income ESs in the DCC.

At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.