If you are anti bussing for boundaries

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Anonymous wrote:This concern now feels a bit out of touch with current economic realities of MCPS. They simply do not have the funds to bus kids longer than required nor to turn potential walkers into bus riders. I do not see them in this economic climate placing diversity creation through busing over concerns such as eliminating overcrowding and geographic proximity. Yes, I think there will be odd pockets where kids could go almost the same distance to one school or the other where the to parents ‘less desirable’ school is chosen but I do not see walking distance kids to the middle or high school being zoned so they then must bus. The issue likely will be the families that live reasonably near more than one school via bus but are not close enough to either to be walkers. If the change in bus ride time is 5 or 10 minutes more or less to go to one school versus another then I would think this would be where diversity as well as eliminating overcrowding will play out.

That's why bussed kids to WJ or BCC who live near Einstein, or the boundaries like Wootton's, where most families live closer to another high-school, need to change.

The WJ cluster coordinator testified at the CIP hearing this week: "we ask that the ensuing boundary study for the new high school be conducted so as to ensure that all current WJHS neighborhoods be assigned to either WJHS or the new Woodward." Meaning they're against Kensington WJ neighborhoods within walking distance to Einstein being assigned to Einstein.

This is silly because Einstein is overcrowded so there would be no space for their kids. Even no space to move the Kensington kids over.

Most of the DCC high schools are overcrowded. If you actually want to address overcrowding in the DCC with the new HS and resulting boundary changes, you will have to move a lot of students around. And you can't move them all to Woodward as there isn't enough space there. Both Whitman and BCC are currently underutilized. One option would be to move Woodlin ES, currently zoned for Einstein and is already pretty far from Einstein, to BCC and another BCC feeder to Whitman. Unfortunately, that would increase segregation because Woodlin is one of the highest income ESs in the DCC.

At the same time, Wheaton HS is very overcrowded and a couple of its ES feeders are reasonably close to Woodward. So you could potentially shift 2 of its feeders to Woodward. Maybe a third Wheaton ES can be moved toward the Rockville clusters since the new Crown HS will also be coming. Then you can move a 2nd Einstein feeder to Wheaton. That opens up space at Einstein for Kensington-Parkwood (KP) ES (probably splitting it with the island zoned for KP that is right next to Woodward articulating to Woodward). Now, you have shifted 1 DCC ES to BCC and 2 to Woodward (possibly another ES to another cluster) and by bringing in KP to the DCC you reduce segregation instead of increasing it, while also reducing the distance that KP students must travel to high school.

I agree that something along these lines will happen, but I don't think they can move a Wheaton ES to a Rockville cluster without changing the scope of the study. But they can move a Wheaton ES to either Kennedy or Northwood.

[Anonymous]

With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

Woodward's boundaries will be determined a year and a half before it opens.

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Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

Yes, those poor children don't go to their neighborhood school. It's shocking.

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Ohhh I am absolutely 100% against any bussing outside of districts and hate the magnet and immersion programs.

Such a huge waste of money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

This is what that area wanted. There is NO space at Einstein.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

Yes, those poor children don't go to their neighborhood school. It's shocking.

They are children of richer families so they don't want to slum it at Einstein.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

Woodward's boundaries will be determined a year and a half before it opens.

Yes, but they can predict now what is being built and what will be built in the next few years. It will probably be pretty full at opening once they pull from WJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

Yes, those poor children don't go to their neighborhood school. It's shocking.

They are children of richer families so they don't want to slum it at Einstein.

I was reliably told families want to attend their neighborhood schools and don't care about demographics. There was a definitive survey about this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But support kids being bussed to magnet programs please explain why?

I feel like the anti bussing crowd that say little Larla shouldnt have to be on a bus for that long are the same people who would happily bus their kid to a magnet program.

I am against all the busing from some areas like Kensington to places like BCC or WJ. Why can't people use their neighborhood schools?

There is a .5 mile difference between my house and Einstein vs WJ.

A home in the center of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area (excluding the Tuckerman island) is 1.5 miles from Einstein and 3 miles from Walter Johnson. It's really unfair those kids have to travel so far when they have another high school that is so close by.

This is what that area wanted. There is NO space at Einstein.

Most schools in the DCC are overcrowded. They have to move a lot of kids around to maximize the space they have. To maximize proximity, moving at least some of the Kensington-Parkwood ES catchment area to Einstein while moving other schools out of Einstein will be necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

Isn't Rockville the same thing as North Bethesda?

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Anonymous wrote:With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

Isn't Rockville the same thing as North Bethesda?

Depends on whether you want to buy the house, or try to sell it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With all the new building in Rockville and North Bethesda, by the time Woodard opens there probably will not be space to shift Einstein and Wheaton to Woodward.

Woodward's boundaries will be determined a year and a half before it opens.

Yes, but they can predict now what is being built and what will be built in the next few years. It will probably be pretty full at opening once they pull from WJ.

WJ doesn't have special standing above any other school within the study. They will look at all the numbers and projections for all of the schools and make a decision based on what best advances the factors.