This is probably the last year DD will believe in Santa. How do I make it special?

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

It just seems like singling out, ANd no as I said I didn't grow up raised to believe in Santa my knowledge of Santa comes from movies and TV and those always seemed more focused of fun, and magic and kindness

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

'm not sure what I said that was racist but your comment is sort of what I mean about the whole Santa thing being, mean, competitive and toxic in real life and not at all like what is portrayed in TV and movies.

That was directed to the nasty racists in this thread. That’s why there was a space and a clear statement to them.

I don’t know why you have such strong opinions when you admit your only experience of Santa is television and movies. I love a good hospital show but I don’t make medical decisions based n Grey’s Anatomy.

Well no it wasn't clear to me. Also medicine is a real thing, Santa is a children's story something that's meant to be fun, mainly for children but the whole family can participate in , it just seems that there's so much fights about it and nastiness in practice.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

It just seems like singling out, ANd no as I said I didn't grow up raised to believe in Santa my knowledge of Santa comes from movies and TV and those always seemed more focused of fun, and magic and kindness

So maybe this isn’t the conversation for you. Do you think a teen cares if they are “singled” out because they don’t believe in a childish fairytale? Give me a break. They could simply “pretend” to believe wink wink. You’re taking this far too seriously and don’t get it at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

'm not sure what I said that was racist but your comment is sort of what I mean about the whole Santa thing being, mean, competitive and toxic in real life and not at all like what is portrayed in TV and movies.

That was directed to the nasty racists in this thread. That’s why there was a space and a clear statement to them.

I don’t know why you have such strong opinions when you admit your only experience of Santa is television and movies. I love a good hospital show but I don’t make medical decisions based n Grey’s Anatomy.

Well no it wasn't clear to me. Also medicine is a real thing, Santa is a children's story something that's meant to be fun, mainly for children but the whole family can participate in , it just seems that there's so much fights about it and nastiness in practice.

Fights and nastiness? What in the world are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

It just seems like singling out, ANd no as I said I didn't grow up raised to believe in Santa my knowledge of Santa comes from movies and TV and those always seemed more focused of fun, and magic and kindness

So maybe this isn’t the conversation for you. Do you think a teen cares if they are “singled” out because they don’t believe in a childish fairytale? Give me a break. They could simply “pretend” to believe wink wink. You’re taking this far too seriously and don’t get it at all.

+1. It's definitely a *wink wink* situation. The teen wants the magic to continue for the younger children because they enjoyed it themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

'm not sure what I said that was racist but your comment is sort of what I mean about the whole Santa thing being, mean, competitive and toxic in real life and not at all like what is portrayed in TV and movies.

That was directed to the nasty racists in this thread. That’s why there was a space and a clear statement to them.

I don’t know why you have such strong opinions when you admit your only experience of Santa is television and movies. I love a good hospital show but I don’t make medical decisions based n Grey’s Anatomy.

Well no it wasn't clear to me. Also medicine is a real thing, Santa is a children's story something that's meant to be fun, mainly for children but the whole family can participate in , it just seems that there's so much fights about it and nastiness in practice.

Fights and nastiness? What in the world are you talking about?

Maybe you need to step away from the screens and experience more real life, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

It just seems like singling out, ANd no as I said I didn't grow up raised to believe in Santa my knowledge of Santa comes from movies and TV and those always seemed more focused of fun, and magic and kindness

Santa is fun, magical, and kind. My family embraces the myth and continues the rituals. Instead of a heartbreaking SANTA IS NOT REAL moment, everyone is free to continue enjoying, but they also aren’t forced. So one year, one teen said he didn’t believe in Santa. Ok. Fine. His gifts came from the family, he chose not to participate in a couple of things we do- a silly magic reindeer dance wherein I “magically” make glitter appear in oats to help the reindeer fly, and he didn’t write a letter to Santa. Everyone was happy. Everyone is happy.

You really need to calm down. You keep repeating how you have no knowledge of Santa outside of movies and TV. There is no single right or wrong way to do Santa. Families have different traditions and that’s perfectly fine as well. Families handle Santa differently as kids get older. This is also perfectly fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

“It’s ok to not post when you don’t know what you’re talking about” should be a banner at the top of DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

'm not sure what I said that was racist but your comment is sort of what I mean about the whole Santa thing being, mean, competitive and toxic in real life and not at all like what is portrayed in TV and movies.

That was directed to the nasty racists in this thread. That’s why there was a space and a clear statement to them.

I don’t know why you have such strong opinions when you admit your only experience of Santa is television and movies. I love a good hospital show but I don’t make medical decisions based n Grey’s Anatomy.

Well no it wasn't clear to me. Also medicine is a real thing, Santa is a children's story something that's meant to be fun, mainly for children but the whole family can participate in , it just seems that there's so much fights about it and nastiness in practice.

Fights and nastiness? What in the world are you talking about?

Really? Just take a look at this thread your's and others have replied in ways that I would consider rude and nasty.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

“It’s ok to not post when you don’t know what you’re talking about” should be a banner at the top of DCUM.

Take your own advice.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

Calm down? I am not upset. I;m not the poster telling people to shut up or, calling them stupid or saying they shouldn't post. I do appreciate you trying to explain.


That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

It sounds like the tag say from Mom & Dad instead of Santa and you think this is a huge problem or toxic and competitive? Really?

Yes I do. It just seems mean, as have the other replies in this thread from people who do Santa

Only because you’re not very smart or intentionally misunderstanding. The socks say “From Mom” instead of “From Santa”. Explain how that’s mean? Either way mom bought the socks. A non believer already knows that. Did you think Santa was real or something?

It just seems like singling out, ANd no as I said I didn't grow up raised to believe in Santa my knowledge of Santa comes from movies and TV and those always seemed more focused of fun, and magic and kindness

Santa is fun, magical, and kind. My family embraces the myth and continues the rituals. Instead of a heartbreaking SANTA IS NOT REAL moment, everyone is free to continue enjoying, but they also aren’t forced. So one year, one teen said he didn’t believe in Santa. Ok. Fine. His gifts came from the family, he chose not to participate in a couple of things we do- a silly magic reindeer dance wherein I “magically” make glitter appear in oats to help the reindeer fly, and he didn’t write a letter to Santa. Everyone was happy. Everyone is happy.

You really need to calm down. You keep repeating how you have no knowledge of Santa outside of movies and TV. There is no single right or wrong way to do Santa. Families have different traditions and that’s perfectly fine as well. Families handle Santa differently as kids get older. This is also perfectly fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The lies have become so elaborate there are fourth graders that still believe in Santa, flying reindeer and magical stuffed elves. Lol, it isn’t for the kids at that point.

And? Who does it hurt for fourth graders to believe in magic? I never told my kids any “elaborate lies,” and answered their questions with things like, “hmm, what do you think?” Most kids will gradually figure it out over time, but many still like to play along and pretend. I certainly never told my parents I knew, but at some point of course they knew I did. But it was still fun.

This is similar to what my parents did and what I have done. We are a “if you don’t believe you don’t receive” family. Instead of this big sad moment of finding out Santa is not “real,” there’s just a gradual transition. Everyone still enjoys the rituals, cookies and notes for Santa, magic carrots and oats for the reindeer. It’s very sweet to find that your YA or teen has filled a stocking or snuck a Santa gift for you.

that's so messed up

I have a feeling you just want to be ugly, but to clarify, if you don’t believe, yiou don’t receive from Santa. You’re not excluded from anything and still receive gifts from everyone else. This has only happened once with a teen who noped out one year.

That still doesn't seem very fun and kind-spirited to me. But I didn't grow up with Santa my only knowledge of Santa is from TV and movies and it always seemed fun, the reality seems less so it seems toxic and competitive

There’s nothing toxic or competitive with Santa at our house. It’s ok not to post when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

WTF with the racist jerks? Go away and shut up.

'm not sure what I said that was racist but your comment is sort of what I mean about the whole Santa thing being, mean, competitive and toxic in real life and not at all like what is portrayed in TV and movies.

That was directed to the nasty racists in this thread. That’s why there was a space and a clear statement to them.

I don’t know why you have such strong opinions when you admit your only experience of Santa is television and movies. I love a good hospital show but I don’t make medical decisions based n Grey’s Anatomy.

Well no it wasn't clear to me. Also medicine is a real thing, Santa is a children's story something that's meant to be fun, mainly for children but the whole family can participate in , it just seems that there's so much fights about it and nastiness in practice.

Fights and nastiness? What in the world are you talking about?

Really? Just take a look at this thread your's and others have replied in ways that I would consider rude and nasty.

Maybe because you’re just very annoying and can’t stop talking about your lack of knowledge other than what you’ve learned from the TV? You’re adding nothing to this and just seem to want to fight about it. Did you even bother answering OPs question? Troll.

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NP. I took "if you don't believe you don't receive" to mean that a kid didn't get as many gifts if they didn't profess belief in Santa, which seemed a bit cruel. But it appears that that is not the case, it is just that the gifts are tagged as being from Mom and Dad. That seems perfectly fine and logical.

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Anonymous wrote:She's only in 3rd grade it won't be the last year.

I was going to say the opposite... Very unusual for a 3rd grader to still believe in Santa. Would assume there's a decent chance someone ruins it pre-this Xmas.