Athletes are probably 1-2% of the freshman class or less |
And you sound like a dipshit. Alumni involvement matters a lot. |
| i swear michigan gatekeepers are some of the most insufferable people on here. It's nowhere near as selective as an ivy. I say this with multiple kids that got into ross but chose elsewhere. |
Michigan bashers are insufferable. A school with over 30,000 undergraduate students, half from OOS and full pay, is never going to be as selective as an Ivy. Who cares? |
How many kids did you have? Are you a baby machine? |
I bet those same kids turned down other top schools as well. Your point is not well taken. |
| keep hyping up michigan. It doesn't change the fact that most were rejected by top privates. |
Also, once you have direct experience talking to a successful applicant, it saves time and helps a lot. |
Of course it’s not! It’s a public university, so it shouldn’t be. But considering that, it’s still extremely difficult to gain admission, especially for OOS. And it’s a great school regardless that can hold its own vis-a-vis any Ivy. |
Most applicants are rejected by top privates. I’d also say that vast majority of Michigan applicants have no interest in attending so called top privates. They don’t provide the overall experience that many teenagers desire when attending a big public that cannot be replicated easily by a small private. |
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I'd bet you that a huge fraction of Michigan residents have no idea about schools like Emory, Vanderbilt, WUSTL, etc. Basically the entire South. Michigan kids mainly consider in-state and the surrounding belt of Midwest states. And famous East Coast schools. A few look at Syracuse and Pitt but the cost is too high.
In the last 10 years, from our Michigan district, one kid went to Penn, one to University of Maryland, and two to Tulane. A few applied to Harvard based on name brand without the chops and were rejected. My kid applied to Cornell RD (family school) and was waitlisted. He didn't see the advantage of lobbying to get off the waitlist to spend a minimum of $200K more than Michigan. The schools have a lot in common. Including derision from the snobbiest Ivy snobs. The Tulane kids were real outliers. One got denied by Michigan. The other was going for elementary ed. Odd choices. Knowing what I know now, I suspect USNWR brainwashing. |
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“I'd bet you that a huge fraction of Michigan residents have no idea about schools like Emory, Vanderbilt, WUSTL, etc”
It’s not that they’re not aware of those schools, it’s just doesn’t make sense to pay so much for them when you have a top instate public. If they’re going to head OOS, it’s more than likely going to be a top elite/religious school or a public/private that offers $$$. |
| DC at Michigan. Didn’t apply to Vanderbilt, Emory, Duke, Georgetown, CMU, Ivies or other top privates. DC is a STEM kid and went for Engineering. Not everyone is interested in a top private. |
Yep. |
It's not like they could get in anyway. We can see Umich'es test scores. |