Scouts at MLSNext games

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Anonymous wrote:From a small number of kids, DCU sent 4 players to Ivy League schools

If it turns out these kids were doing the online program, I'll have to temper my criticisms.

Ask those parents if DCU help them with anything with their recruitment. Trust me getting your kid recruited is a DIY project.

Not trusting you because I 100% know better.

Being a good player and being at DCU were positive factors, not the only factors.
Facts.

Ok hope it works out for you. But I know what I'm talking about. Positive Factors maybe? but alot of politics go into those factors. Clubs don't promote players during the process. DIY is the best way to go!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From a small number of kids, DCU sent 4 players to Ivy League schools

If it turns out these kids were doing the online program, I'll have to temper my criticisms.

Ask those parents if DCU help them with anything with their recruitment. Trust me getting your kid recruited is a DIY project.

Not trusting you because I 100% know better.

Being a good player and being at DCU were positive factors, not the only factors.
Facts.

Ok hope it works out for you. But I know what I'm talking about. Positive Factors maybe? but alot of politics go into those factors. Clubs don't promote players during the process. DIY is the best way to go!

Who said parents and players don't have to do anything to advocate for themselves in the process?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

The idea of a professional academy showing interest in a player you’ve developed can certainly be seen as a compliment to the work you’ve done. However, it’s important to consider the broader context in which this is happening.

In our area, there is a significant gap in terms of support, resources, and qualified staff for true player development at the professional academy level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.

Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

Because they lose their best players and they may not always have a deep team to draw from or rebuild with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

Because they lose their best players and they may not always have a deep team to draw from or rebuild with.

Also, if that kid makes it pro, the club gets paid. Seems like a good incentive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and if you have a crappy coach or is with a crappy league ( like SYC) , they will not help you but would rather hold you back.

Pls elaborate on syc. I sense this but thought it just my paranoia. I assume Club wants to see their players to go far and help them reach their goals.

He's a troll, someone with an axe to grind against SYC. If you're MLSNEXT, you're funneling your kids up to Academy, not holding them back.

[Anonymous]

So when would the scouts reach out to players they’re interested in? At the end of the fall season? In the spring?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an honest question. Assume a kid is good enough to be invited to DC United's academy, but he is middle of the pack there, so it's not obvious that he is on a path to get a professional contract. Besides cost (free), what is the advantage of playing for DC United over being a very good player at one of the local MLS Next teams, say Bethesda or SYC?

Will playing for DC United academy lead to better college recruitment? assuming this kid doesn't make it to the pros, will he benefit from having played for DC United academy?

It’s actually a legitimate question. The simple answer is exposure. National team, colleges other MLS academies aren’t really looking that hard at MLS Next clubs for talent. They are banking that the majority of the talent is getting funneled to the MLS academies. Doesn’t mean you can’t get some exposure at a MLS Next club, you can. You will likely get more exposure to a wider swath of eyes at a MLS Academy. On the experiences alone. National team scouts are out at practice frequently. This just doesn’t happen at Bethesda or SYC or any other MLSN program.

Whether he will benefit from DCU is a hard question to answer. The organization is such a mess from top to bottom it is a miracle that they are still running an academy. Coaching is mediocre at best, playing style and philosophy is an utter joke, they are so far behind other MLS academies it is astonishing and the fact is they are just not good developers of talent. But they are the only game in town in terms of MLS. You benefit from the platform and level of player inside the academy but that’s really about it. And as a resume builder MLS is better than non. I would also take a look at the online school situation at DCu. I think they are making kids do this at the older ages. Not great. Trust DCU with your child’s education!!!!!????? No way.

The Online program in use at DC United is used by multiple MLS Clubs and International Residency schools both in America and overseas.

Do you have performance data on this online school program in comparison to the school districts in the DMV?

Interesting challenge. I'm not the PP but was wondering too. I can't find anything on SAI Academy (I think that's the current provider) test scores on the internet. What do you have for performance data, so we can compare?

You're asking the person who asked for data to provide data?

Correct. Because they seem to positing that the school is good. Or at least challenging a commenter to compare it to local schools, for which there are plenty of data.

And, they weren't "asking" for data, they were challenging someone to prove a point. They should be able to do the same. If they know enough about the program to say it is "in use at DC United is used by multiple MLS Clubs and International Residency schools both in America and overseas," it seems like they should have some access to information.

My assumption, without that data, will be that it is a subpar education catered to, and concentrating on, athletic success. I also assume it pales in comparison to schools in this region that includes some of the best public and private schools in the country.

I wonder if the multiple DC United Academy players going to Ivy League schools used the online program? 🤔

Me too. Did they?

Nope. I know two from private school and two from a local public as well as some none academy players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So when would the scouts reach out to players they’re interested in? At the end of the fall season? In the spring?

From what I've seen, trials show up around April-May.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

The idea of a professional academy showing interest in a player you’ve developed can certainly be seen as a compliment to the work you’ve done. However, it’s important to consider the broader context in which this is happening.

In our area, there is a significant gap in terms of support, resources, and qualified staff for true player development at the professional academy level.

I don't understand what you mean by your second paragraph.
There is gap between our area and where?
What is true player development?
Why don't we have resources, support and qualified staff? What's the evidence of that?

Aren't there players from our region now playing professionally here and overseas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But how would you know this is true? Are the scouts introduced to the clubs and team? Do the coaches know them and can verify that they are there?

Because you can tell who they are. Often the two I recognize have DCU swag on; they’re not hiding it. My DH spoke to one a few times and he confirmed who he was and what he was doing there. They’re not hiding in the bushes.

Do they get the names of players they’re interested in from the coach after a game or do they have access to the rosters for all local MLSNext games?

Yes and yes. They will never contact the player, always through the coach first.

Are the scouts friendly with the MLSNext coaches then? I mean it must suck to have your best players essentially poached regularly!

Why would it suck for the professional academy in your area to want a player you developed, providing you actually developed him?

Because they lose their best players and they may not always have a deep team to draw from or rebuild with.

Spoken like someone representing the lack of a true soccer culture.

If you're a coach developing youth players to reach their full potential, what is the importance of a deep team?
You're developing individuals.

If you want to hold a kid back for your own ego to win games, then you're a horrible youth coach

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So when would the scouts reach out to players they’re interested in? At the end of the fall season? In the spring?

From what I've seen, trials show up around April-May.

Really? That seems late.

So they hold an invite only tryout? Is that how it works?