What’s the latest with proposed later middle school start time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:nothing has changed and doesn't seem like it will.

Again FCPS doesn't care about what is good for families and kids.

Having the 2 quick years of muddle school with the crappiest schefule is good for the vast majority of families in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Getting rid of center schools will result in county wide rezoning of most elementary schools.

Be careful what you eish for, especially if you are at a non AAP school and live outside of the walk zone to your zoned elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

You left out Math.

Very few non center schools have 7th graders going into Algebra 1 for middle school.

And only AAP centers have 6th graders taking Algebra I with the middle school students.

These strong math students will be negatively impacted if FCPS eliminates center schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

You left out Math.

Very few non center schools have 7th graders going into Algebra 1 for middle school.

And only AAP centers have 6th graders taking Algebra I with the middle school students.

These strong math students will be negatively impacted if FCPS eliminates center schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

Not anymore. I teach AAP. Everyone is getting the new basal. It is required. I would be shocked if anyone had time to fit in Caesar’s English as there is barely enough time to get through the basal program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

You left out Math.

Very few non center schools have 7th graders going into Algebra 1 for middle school.

And only AAP centers have 6th graders taking Algebra I with the middle school students.

These strong math students will be negatively impacted if FCPS eliminates center schools.

I teach 6th AAP at a LL4 and 70 percent are taking Algebra 1 as a 7th grader this year. So that statement is not true. The second statement can be figured out at the base school level. Centers should not exist or they should stop bussing kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

Not anymore. I teach AAP. Everyone is getting the new basal. It is required. I would be shocked if anyone had time to fit in Caesar’s English as there is barely enough time to get through the basal program.

+1, there may have been teachers using them last year or the year before, but the county actually did away with those programs a couple years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

Not anymore. I teach AAP. Everyone is getting the new basal. It is required. I would be shocked if anyone had time to fit in Caesar’s English as there is barely enough time to get through the basal program.

That is a shame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get rid of the AAP centers. DD had the choice of staying at her base or AAP center; I kept her at the base where she thrived. Only kids who are at failing schools need to receive enrichment outside of the classroom. There is no need to move kids from one elementary school in McLean to another. It’s completely absurd. If people think they need it that much make them responsible for their own transportation. Why should everyone else suffer?

This. One of the things that annoys me as a teacher. Even more so since every kid is doing the same LA curriculum regardless of AAP. So basically they are going to a different school for SS/Science.

AAP doesn't have anything to do with "failing schools" since there aren't any.

Also, getting rid of AAP would ultimately have more of a negative effect on the budget than the few thousand saved by a two or three fewer bus runs.

PP did not propose getting rid of AAP altogether, she proposed getting rid of the Center schools. I agree. I think they should treat AAP Centers the same way they treat other choice schools. If kids don't get bussed to language immersion or the other choice schools (Bailey's, Hunter Woods, etc.), then they should not get bussed to AAP Centers if their base school offers an LLIV option.

Totally agree. I am an AAP teacher at a LL4. It drives me insane even more so since everyone is getting the same LA curriculum. So basically they are going to a center for SS/Science. Such a waste of resources.

I don't think non AAP kids get Latin stems or Caesars English. Those LA programs are exclusively taught at L4 center programs.

Not anymore. I teach AAP. Everyone is getting the new basal. It is required. I would be shocked if anyone had time to fit in Caesar’s English as there is barely enough time to get through the basal program.

+1, there may have been teachers using them last year or the year before, but the county actually did away with those programs a couple years ago.

Which is too bad, because my now 5th grader learned a ton of vocabulary from Caesar's English.

[Anonymous]

Anyone have any updates on Ms start time?

[Anonymous]

Dr. Reid did a Q&A tonight at RRMS.

She said she had received five scenarios, which the board will be presented next week. December 3 is the working session/discussion.

She indicated some of the proposals are unaffordable and others simply didn't make sense for the county. IF anything is selected by the board, it could be for fall 2025 or they MIGHT elect to push in to fall 2026.

Frankly, I didn't get the feeling from Reid that anything was going to happen at all. I'm sure she doesn't want to set expectations, but her outlook for change sounded dire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid did a Q&A tonight at RRMS.

She said she had received five scenarios, which the board will be presented next week. December 3 is the working session/discussion.

She indicated some of the proposals are unaffordable and others simply didn't make sense for the county. IF anything is selected by the board, it could be for fall 2025 or they MIGHT elect to push in to fall 2026.

Frankly, I didn't get the feeling from Reid that anything was going to happen at all. I'm sure she doesn't want to set expectations, but her outlook for change sounded dire.

Did she walk through what all 5 options were or what else did she talk about as otherwise wouldn’t the meeting be done after 5 minutes of really informative info or 30 minutes of “we don’t know yet” on repeat?

[Anonymous]

Ain't happenin' fam.

Waste of money paying these consultants. If there was a workable solution, someone would have figured it out by now. There isn't. No one in this thread has suggested anything feasible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ain't happenin' fam.

Waste of money paying these consultants. If there was a workable solution, someone would have figured it out by now. There isn't. No one in this thread has suggested anything feasible.

Yep, the only solution is to buy a LOT more buses. FCPS can barely hire enough drivers now, how would they be able to staff a massive expansion? They can't.