Is MoCo taking advantage of Rockville's pool

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Your daughter did not miss two years due to Covid and Covid was what 4 years ago. No one can say if your daughter will get in. Rockville is the hardest.

Yeah, kids were wearing masks at school we didn't think to take her to the pool even if it were open. Little kindergarteners, it was sad. I hope that makes sense. Clearly to the elites amongst us who were practicing at the pool nearly the entire time it doesn't. We were hanging out at the park. She could do monkey bars two by two forward and backward. Skin-the-cats, German hangs etc. I put up gym rings in our foyer. Even then, I am not from around here so summer leagues are new to me. I asked at KSAC about teams ("Did you try the stroke and turn clinic"), I met guy at the barber who does pool maintenance he said, "Get her on a summer league." See how hinky the elites are about their pools. I was at the pool and asking about these things, and all they could say was take this class, which by the way won't even get you into RMSC. So yeah, it took us two years to get back into swimming after Covid.

You mean she did not start swim till two years ago. You are really nasty. Many kids start much younger than k. After minis there are very few spots.

I took her to the pool at six months, I had her in a swim school by two, she could do a freestyle at 3.. then Covid. She completely forgot how to swim, we had to start over.

It sounds like it was more of a priority issue - it just wasn't a priority for you at that time. We all make choices, we can't do/participate in everything all the time.

But, having said that, I think it unrealistic to think that you can completely change the entire system to suit your particular corner-case situation; not to mention it's not a particularly productive or healthy mindset example for your daughter.

If she really wants to swim over the winter, rather than waste time on an option that isn't on the table right now, you should be pursuing options/avenues that are.

I'm glad you brought up how my daughter thinks and feels. She generally appreciates it when I stick up for her. We had an incident in soccer where one of the coaches' kids were getting away with dirty plays. We pulled her from the program, money back thank you very much.

Any way daughter knew she was getting the rough end of the stick at the tryouts when they made her jump off the racing blocks, but they didn't make anyone else. After RSFC RMSC started having private tryouts a few weeks before official public tryouts, and we were at the pool doing our lap swim right next to the coaches doing private lessons. I pointed out to her that they were doing that because they were being anti-competitive they were afraid of her and didn't want her on the team they were making her jump through excessive hoops and giving other kids privileges. I pointed to coaches and told her to get a good look at fraud. Life lessons, priceless. They later had to restructure their private tryouts, but do you think they appreciated that I turned them in or made them do that. No.

This team needs to be defunded.

I am not for closing the pool down, but like you I am for defunding the Rays and cracking down on their shady dealings.

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Your daughter did not miss two years due to Covid and Covid was what 4 years ago. No one can say if your daughter will get in. Rockville is the hardest.

Yeah, kids were wearing masks at school we didn't think to take her to the pool even if it were open. Little kindergarteners, it was sad. I hope that makes sense. Clearly to the elites amongst us who were practicing at the pool nearly the entire time it doesn't. We were hanging out at the park. She could do monkey bars two by two forward and backward. Skin-the-cats, German hangs etc. I put up gym rings in our foyer. Even then, I am not from around here so summer leagues are new to me. I asked at KSAC about teams ("Did you try the stroke and turn clinic"), I met guy at the barber who does pool maintenance he said, "Get her on a summer league." See how hinky the elites are about their pools. I was at the pool and asking about these things, and all they could say was take this class, which by the way won't even get you into RMSC. So yeah, it took us two years to get back into swimming after Covid.

You mean she did not start swim till two years ago. You are really nasty. Many kids start much younger than k. After minis there are very few spots.

I took her to the pool at six months, I had her in a swim school by two, she could do a freestyle at 3.. then Covid. She completely forgot how to swim, we had to start over.

It sounds like it was more of a priority issue - it just wasn't a priority for you at that time. We all make choices, we can't do/participate in everything all the time.

But, having said that, I think it unrealistic to think that you can completely change the entire system to suit your particular corner-case situation; not to mention it's not a particularly productive or healthy mindset example for your daughter.

If she really wants to swim over the winter, rather than waste time on an option that isn't on the table right now, you should be pursuing options/avenues that are.

I'm glad you brought up how my daughter thinks and feels. She generally appreciates it when I stick up for her. We had an incident in soccer where one of the coaches' kids were getting away with dirty plays. We pulled her from the program, money back thank you very much.

Any way daughter knew she was getting the rough end of the stick at the tryouts when they made her jump off the racing blocks, but they didn't make anyone else. After RSFC RMSC started having private tryouts a few weeks before official public tryouts, and we were at the pool doing our lap swim right next to the coaches doing private lessons. I pointed out to her that they were doing that because they were being anti-competitive they were afraid of her and didn't want her on the team they were making her jump through excessive hoops and giving other kids privileges. I pointed to coaches and told her to get a good look at fraud. Life lessons, priceless. They later had to restructure their private tryouts, but do you think they appreciated that I turned them in or made them do that. No.

This team needs to be defunded.

The team is funded by the swimmers who participate so I don't see how you can reasonably accomplish that. I think you mean that they shouldn't be given space at/allowed to use the pool - not sure how you're going to accomplish this either -- what's your plan/approach?

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So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

NP with no stake in this. I do find it strange that city and county tax dollars are used to fund these teams that are not open to more kids.

These teams are generally are full of wealthy families getting to use funded pools. And they do nothing to promote any kind of diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

My arguments above were found to be valid. Taxes paying for elites swimming, that aren't even in the district. Failure to follow safety procedures endangering kids. Bullying kids during tryouts. Unfair tryout practices. These have been "documented" and "corrected", but I fail to see any benefit from having to police these frauds.

So yeah, its sort of a Rockville summer rite of passage all the kids go to crooked tryouts. We all know that is what they do. It isn't like a secret. What do they want respect for that too?

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

+1

Really not a good look and certainly not and example of resilience for the child.

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RMSC is jointly funded by the city and Montgomery county per the website description (Isnt that why it is called Rockville Montgomery Swim Club). So MoCo residents outside of Rockville are also funding it with their taxpayer dollars.

Your objection doesn't hold.

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

NP with no stake in this. I do find it strange that city and county tax dollars are used to fund these teams that are not open to more kids.

These teams are generally are full of wealthy families getting to use funded pools. And they do nothing to promote any kind of diversity.

Many of us are in RMSC because we are not wealthy and it’s what we can afford. You have to try out for multiple sites multiple times to get in like the rest of us. It’s pure luck and depends on how many try out and space availability. Best to get in at minis but you choose to wait. Usually there are a few spots and that’s it.

Yes, they do let really good kids in the higher groups. It’s about winning. They don’t care about the lower groups and it’s a money maker for them.

Rockville has lots of other options in lessons and preteam she can do. Sign her up for a few so she’s swimming multiple times a week.

You sound very difficult. RMSC can only take in so many kids as there is also free swim and lessons at the pool and they can only run before and afterschool.

Rockville is the hardest to get into. That’s why you do multiple locations.

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

My arguments above were found to be valid. Taxes paying for elites swimming, that aren't even in the district. Failure to follow safety procedures endangering kids. Bullying kids during tryouts. Unfair tryout practices. These have been "documented" and "corrected", but I fail to see any benefit from having to police these frauds.

So yeah, its sort of a Rockville summer rite of passage all the kids go to crooked tryouts. We all know that is what they do. It isn't like a secret. What do they want respect for that too?

Ok, and? This is the real world. Your taxes go for many things. RMSC takes the best so they can win. Rockville has plenty of class options for your kid till they get good enough.

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Anonymous wrote:So... OP's kid didn't make the swim team and they think the whole team should be defunded.

I mean A) good luck with that B) I really hope you aren't making statements like this around your kid because it's definitely not teaching how to handle rejection appropriately.

My arguments above were found to be valid. Taxes paying for elites swimming, that aren't even in the district. Failure to follow safety procedures endangering kids. Bullying kids during tryouts. Unfair tryout practices. These have been "documented" and "corrected", but I fail to see any benefit from having to police these frauds.

So yeah, its sort of a Rockville summer rite of passage all the kids go to crooked tryouts. We all know that is what they do. It isn't like a secret. What do they want respect for that too?

Ok, and? This is the real world. Your taxes go for many things. RMSC takes the best so they can win. Rockville has plenty of class options for your kid till they get good enough.

Alos, I am confused about what you want: do you want your kid to participate? or do you think the prgram is unsafe and should be shutdown? Doesn't feel like it can be both.

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Well, statistically speaking, if those declining trends continue, your daughter will have a better chance if she sticks around and continues to improve, so there's that.

That is what happened this summer at the A meets. I was trying to figure out how she could be making the Division A A-meets, when her times were a second to two seconds slower than last years eight-year-olds. Oh they're all like that. I was able to get her in the pools KSAC, RSFC, Olney get enough practice in during public swim times, read some books. I just don't think that is going to happen this year with KSAC closed. It's just going to be too crowded and gross. We'll probably just do basketball. Such is life, but that $400,000 per year tax subsidy could be used for something else maybe build a gym hire professional basketball coaches or something besides funding the elitist non-residents spa.

Your kid swimming a meets means nothing. Ksac is closed but they were moved and a new pol was open. You could have also tried out for germantown.

Why don't the county residents that like to swim at RSFC go to Germantown. Am I missing something, your suggestion doesn't seem very good.

Seriously, why do I have to drive to Germantown? I don't understand the reasoning.

You don’t get how this works. You take who ever will take your child.

And I think we should stop taking non-residents, so that residents of Rockville who pay taxes can have the convenience of a pool.

If it weren’t for non-residents, the program wouldn’t be able to sustain itself. Non residents pay more. What’s your plan? Eliminate the competition to make it easier for your daughter to make the team? You don’t become an amazing swimmer by eliminating the competition, you become great by surrendering yourself with greatness.

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Well, statistically speaking, if those declining trends continue, your daughter will have a better chance if she sticks around and continues to improve, so there's that.

That is what happened this summer at the A meets. I was trying to figure out how she could be making the Division A A-meets, when her times were a second to two seconds slower than last years eight-year-olds. Oh they're all like that. I was able to get her in the pools KSAC, RSFC, Olney get enough practice in during public swim times, read some books. I just don't think that is going to happen this year with KSAC closed. It's just going to be too crowded and gross. We'll probably just do basketball. Such is life, but that $400,000 per year tax subsidy could be used for something else maybe build a gym hire professional basketball coaches or something besides funding the elitist non-residents spa.

Your kid swimming a meets means nothing. Ksac is closed but they were moved and a new pol was open. You could have also tried out for germantown.

Why don't the county residents that like to swim at RSFC go to Germantown. Am I missing something, your suggestion doesn't seem very good.

Seriously, why do I have to drive to Germantown? I don't understand the reasoning.

You don’t get how this works. You take who ever will take your child.

And I think we should stop taking non-residents, so that residents of Rockville who pay taxes can have the convenience of a pool.

If it weren’t for non-residents, the program wouldn’t be able to sustain itself. Non residents pay more. What’s your plan? Eliminate the competition to make it easier for your daughter to make the team? You don’t become an amazing swimmer by eliminating the competition, you become great by surrendering yourself with greatness.

The pool has lessons, preteam and much more they can do.

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Your daughter did not miss two years due to Covid and Covid was what 4 years ago. No one can say if your daughter will get in. Rockville is the hardest.

Yeah, kids were wearing masks at school we didn't think to take her to the pool even if it were open. Little kindergarteners, it was sad. I hope that makes sense. Clearly to the elites amongst us who were practicing at the pool nearly the entire time it doesn't. We were hanging out at the park. She could do monkey bars two by two forward and backward. Skin-the-cats, German hangs etc. I put up gym rings in our foyer. Even then, I am not from around here so summer leagues are new to me. I asked at KSAC about teams ("Did you try the stroke and turn clinic"), I met guy at the barber who does pool maintenance he said, "Get her on a summer league." See how hinky the elites are about their pools. I was at the pool and asking about these things, and all they could say was take this class, which by the way won't even get you into RMSC. So yeah, it took us two years to get back into swimming after Covid.

You mean she did not start swim till two years ago. You are really nasty. Many kids start much younger than k. After minis there are very few spots.

I took her to the pool at six months, I had her in a swim school by two, she could do a freestyle at 3.. then Covid. She completely forgot how to swim, we had to start over.

It sounds like it was more of a priority issue - it just wasn't a priority for you at that time. We all make choices, we can't do/participate in everything all the time.

But, having said that, I think it unrealistic to think that you can completely change the entire system to suit your particular corner-case situation; not to mention it's not a particularly productive or healthy mindset example for your daughter.

If she really wants to swim over the winter, rather than waste time on an option that isn't on the table right now, you should be pursuing options/avenues that are.

I'm glad you brought up how my daughter thinks and feels. She generally appreciates it when I stick up for her. We had an incident in soccer where one of the coaches' kids were getting away with dirty plays. We pulled her from the program, money back thank you very much.

Any way daughter knew she was getting the rough end of the stick at the tryouts when they made her jump off the racing blocks, but they didn't make anyone else. After RSFC RMSC started having private tryouts a few weeks before official public tryouts, and we were at the pool doing our lap swim right next to the coaches doing private lessons. I pointed out to her that they were doing that because they were being anti-competitive they were afraid of her and didn't want her on the team they were making her jump through excessive hoops and giving other kids privileges. I pointed to coaches and told her to get a good look at fraud. Life lessons, priceless. They later had to restructure their private tryouts, but do you think they appreciated that I turned them in or made them do that. No.

This team needs to be defunded.

Tip from a parent with older kids: you might be the reason that your daughter didn't make RMSC. I have sat through multiple talks with high school and college coaches in swimming and other sports who are very upfront about parent behavior they won't accept. Disrupting other kids' tryouts by pointing at them and calling "fraud" would fall in that category. Coaches mention that they don't want unhelpful parents and will tell college coaches in the recruiting process if a certain parents are pains-in-the-neck (not to mention cut kids from the team whose parents are disruptive). They have a lot of kids to deal with, they simply can't stop the program for a troublemaker. This is pretty common in any travel sport in which my kids were involved (though to be clear, I have no direct experience with the RMSC program). Maybe this isn't it at all, but physically pointing at another kid while they are trying out or loudly calling a coach a "fraud" sounds pretty disruptive. Also, forcing them to restructure their tryout process also sounds disruptive to the team.

Also, please be open to the idea that you don't have the full story with a situation that didn't involve you: who knows why there was a tryout occurring or who that other kid was.

Take it for what it is worth - it is your daughter's experience you might be undermining.

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Your daughter did not miss two years due to Covid and Covid was what 4 years ago. No one can say if your daughter will get in. Rockville is the hardest.

Yeah, kids were wearing masks at school we didn't think to take her to the pool even if it were open. Little kindergarteners, it was sad. I hope that makes sense. Clearly to the elites amongst us who were practicing at the pool nearly the entire time it doesn't. We were hanging out at the park. She could do monkey bars two by two forward and backward. Skin-the-cats, German hangs etc. I put up gym rings in our foyer. Even then, I am not from around here so summer leagues are new to me. I asked at KSAC about teams ("Did you try the stroke and turn clinic"), I met guy at the barber who does pool maintenance he said, "Get her on a summer league." See how hinky the elites are about their pools. I was at the pool and asking about these things, and all they could say was take this class, which by the way won't even get you into RMSC. So yeah, it took us two years to get back into swimming after Covid.

You mean she did not start swim till two years ago. You are really nasty. Many kids start much younger than k. After minis there are very few spots.

I took her to the pool at six months, I had her in a swim school by two, she could do a freestyle at 3.. then Covid. She completely forgot how to swim, we had to start over.

It sounds like it was more of a priority issue - it just wasn't a priority for you at that time. We all make choices, we can't do/participate in everything all the time.

But, having said that, I think it unrealistic to think that you can completely change the entire system to suit your particular corner-case situation; not to mention it's not a particularly productive or healthy mindset example for your daughter.

If she really wants to swim over the winter, rather than waste time on an option that isn't on the table right now, you should be pursuing options/avenues that are.

I'm glad you brought up how my daughter thinks and feels. She generally appreciates it when I stick up for her. We had an incident in soccer where one of the coaches' kids were getting away with dirty plays. We pulled her from the program, money back thank you very much.

Any way daughter knew she was getting the rough end of the stick at the tryouts when they made her jump off the racing blocks, but they didn't make anyone else. After RSFC RMSC started having private tryouts a few weeks before official public tryouts, and we were at the pool doing our lap swim right next to the coaches doing private lessons. I pointed out to her that they were doing that because they were being anti-competitive they were afraid of her and didn't want her on the team they were making her jump through excessive hoops and giving other kids privileges. I pointed to coaches and told her to get a good look at fraud. Life lessons, priceless. They later had to restructure their private tryouts, but do you think they appreciated that I turned them in or made them do that. No.

This team needs to be defunded.

Omg! You need to take a seat before you give your daughter a complex. You’re really doing a number on her if you’re having those conversations with your 7/8 year old!!

Do you always play the victim in real life?

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I mean it sounds like the tax-supported spending on the swim center is really minimal and must be a tiny fraction of any given resident's city taxes but maybe I am wrong.

We don't like the service though. The teams are dominated by non-resident elite freeloaders and the pools are like swimming in snot during the winter.

If MOCO can shut down KSAC why can't we shutdown RSFC? Mary Antoinette: "Let them swim at Olney".

They didn't shut down KSAC, they are spending millions to renovate it. You will be welcome there once they are finished - it should be nice.

That is a long time for kiddos. OOps sorry drive to Silver Spring they built two facilities there. Keep in mind my daughter already missed out on a year and a half or two years of swimming from Covid. Not just my kiddo either. USA Swimming lost like 18,000 swimmers. It was really obvious who was able to "get in" to the competitive programs early, because everyone else was high and dry.

https://swimswam.com/usa-swimming-membership-declines-4-6-in-2023-after-promising-post-pandemic-growth-in-2022/

Is she going to be able to make RMSC in two years. I don't think so. Curse of the crummy coach strikes again. Way to keep the troll on a roll.

Your daughter did not miss two years due to Covid and Covid was what 4 years ago. No one can say if your daughter will get in. Rockville is the hardest.

Yeah, kids were wearing masks at school we didn't think to take her to the pool even if it were open. Little kindergarteners, it was sad. I hope that makes sense. Clearly to the elites amongst us who were practicing at the pool nearly the entire time it doesn't. We were hanging out at the park. She could do monkey bars two by two forward and backward. Skin-the-cats, German hangs etc. I put up gym rings in our foyer. Even then, I am not from around here so summer leagues are new to me. I asked at KSAC about teams ("Did you try the stroke and turn clinic"), I met guy at the barber who does pool maintenance he said, "Get her on a summer league." See how hinky the elites are about their pools. I was at the pool and asking about these things, and all they could say was take this class, which by the way won't even get you into RMSC. So yeah, it took us two years to get back into swimming after Covid.

You mean she did not start swim till two years ago. You are really nasty. Many kids start much younger than k. After minis there are very few spots.

I took her to the pool at six months, I had her in a swim school by two, she could do a freestyle at 3.. then Covid. She completely forgot how to swim, we had to start over.

It sounds like it was more of a priority issue - it just wasn't a priority for you at that time. We all make choices, we can't do/participate in everything all the time.

But, having said that, I think it unrealistic to think that you can completely change the entire system to suit your particular corner-case situation; not to mention it's not a particularly productive or healthy mindset example for your daughter.

If she really wants to swim over the winter, rather than waste time on an option that isn't on the table right now, you should be pursuing options/avenues that are.

I'm glad you brought up how my daughter thinks and feels. She generally appreciates it when I stick up for her. We had an incident in soccer where one of the coaches' kids were getting away with dirty plays. We pulled her from the program, money back thank you very much.

Any way daughter knew she was getting the rough end of the stick at the tryouts when they made her jump off the racing blocks, but they didn't make anyone else. After RSFC RMSC started having private tryouts a few weeks before official public tryouts, and we were at the pool doing our lap swim right next to the coaches doing private lessons. I pointed out to her that they were doing that because they were being anti-competitive they were afraid of her and didn't want her on the team they were making her jump through excessive hoops and giving other kids privileges. I pointed to coaches and told her to get a good look at fraud. Life lessons, priceless. They later had to restructure their private tryouts, but do you think they appreciated that I turned them in or made them do that. No.

This team needs to be defunded.

Tip from a parent with older kids: you might be the reason that your daughter didn't make RMSC. I have sat through multiple talks with high school and college coaches in swimming and other sports who are very upfront about parent behavior they won't accept. Disrupting other kids' tryouts by pointing at them and calling "fraud" would fall in that category. Coaches mention that they don't want unhelpful parents and will tell college coaches in the recruiting process if a certain parents are pains-in-the-neck (not to mention cut kids from the team whose parents are disruptive). They have a lot of kids to deal with, they simply can't stop the program for a troublemaker. This is pretty common in any travel sport in which my kids were involved (though to be clear, I have no direct experience with the RMSC program). Maybe this isn't it at all, but physically pointing at another kid while they are trying out or loudly calling a coach a "fraud" sounds pretty disruptive. Also, forcing them to restructure their tryout process also sounds disruptive to the team.

Also, please be open to the idea that you don't have the full story with a situation that didn't involve you: who knows why there was a tryout occurring or who that other kid was.

Take it for what it is worth - it is your daughter's experience you might be undermining.

I pointed at the coach at a private session. They feel entitled and jump in the lane with us whenever we happen to be swimming so, you know, disruptions are disruptions at public facilities. It would be nice if they weren't so crowded, and didn't talk about inviting kids to private lessons while we are sitting there you know.

They pulled the punches first. They decided to bully us. What do you do with them after that point. I mean I don't really feel sorry for a coach that has to deal with disruptive parents when they are pulling stuff like that do you? You know there are many people in the world that have had to put up with bad coaches when they were kids or teens. I was one of them. I decided I would rather fight them than to put up with that. There are lots of kids being taken advantage of on B-teams, scout squads etc. Is the entire swimming community born spineless, or do they learn that when they get enrolled in the swimming programs when they are five.