Deputy Director of DC Dept of Bldgs Resigns after being found working multiple jobs

[Anonymous]

This is so awful and unethical. I hope she gets fired from fannie mae, kicked off the city council and prosecuted for wage fraud. I hope all her fcc neighbors make sure they show their disapproval of her.

[Anonymous]

Caroline Lian resigned this afternoon from her position on the Falls Church City Council. Seems she had only reported her Freddie Mac job on her financial disclosure form. Must have forgotten about the other one, since it was only two days a week and another six figures.

https://www.fcnp.com/2024/08/08/council-member-caroline-lian-has-resigned-her-council-seat-effective-today-august-8-2024/

[Anonymous]

She was number 2 at the DC Department of Buildings! Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

I don't see the problem. Was she getting the work done? If so, who cares? She was hustling and making a better life for herself. Everyone else can and should do the same. You don't give a enough work then why not get some side hustles? Good for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem. Was she getting the work done? If so, who cares? She was hustling and making a better life for herself. Everyone else can and should do the same. You don't give a enough work then why not get some side hustles? Good for her.

Have you dealt with the DC Department of Buildings? It's not an efficient and well-run place. She was its #2. Can't speak to Fannie Mae and what she did there or her Falls Church gig.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why would someone do this? Who wants two jobs?! And this was so likely to get found out, I can’t believe she thought it would work.

One of those jobs clearly didn't require much time and attention.

Originally she was Chief Operating Officer before being promoted to Deputy Director. According to the Post there is no information on what she actually did as Deputy Director. At Freddie she was a risk management director.

The funniest part is that she was hired as the initial COO at DOB. The agency Bowser created to fix DCRA and takeover public building maintenance. In other words, it's the agency in charge of fixing the Wilson pool and maintaining school buildings along with construction permiting.

No, that’s DGS. DOB is in charge of residential permitting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem. Was she getting the work done? If so, who cares? She was hustling and making a better life for herself. Everyone else can and should do the same. You don't give an enough work then why not get some side hustles? Good for her.

Agreed that she seems like a hustler.

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Yup. Bad apples like Caroline Lian are going to be an excuse to curtail hybrid work schedules. I hope someone prosecutes her. She shouldn't be allowed to just resign and walk away with her pension intact after defrauding two employers and DC tax payers. And if you've ever tried to deal with DC Dept of Buildings--it is a particularly dysfunctional part of DC government.

I want our POS mayor to call these POS District employees back in the office five days a week. These paper pushers are coasting on fat cushy jobs and most of them live in the suburbs. And then you have the rest of them that are working other job under the table during this hybrid bullshlt. As a 16 year DC resident, enuff is efukking nuff.

The District--what a land of opportunity! Live in the burbs and work from home while you collect a second hybrid salary! Then risk having a medical emergency when you're actually in the office and have 911 send emergency response to the wrong side of town.

Not only collecting a 2nd paycheck, but also qualifying for a bigger pension. Nuts.

And she keeps that pension because she was allowed to "resign." WTF is wrong with DC government.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem. Was she getting the work done? If so, who cares? She was hustling and making a better life for herself. Everyone else can and should do the same. You don't give a enough work then why not get some side hustles? Good for her.

Have you dealt with the DC Department of Buildings? It's not an efficient and well-run place. She was its #2. Can't speak to Fannie Mae and what she did there or her Falls Church gig.

+1 It's a new agency only 2 years old. You think that it's second in command should be effectively a part-timer?

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J1, J2, J3

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Anonymous wrote:Caroline Lian resigned this afternoon from her position on the Falls Church City Council. Seems she had only reported her Freddie Mac job on her financial disclosure form. Must have forgotten about the other one, since it was only two days a week and another six figures.

https://www.fcnp.com/2024/08/08/council-member-caroline-lian-has-resigned-her-council-seat-effective-today-august-8-2024/

Good, glad she was referred to the commonwealth attorney for falsifying her disclosure form. Hope she is prosecuted.

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Anonymous wrote:Caroline Lian resigned this afternoon from her position on the Falls Church City Council. Seems she had only reported her Freddie Mac job on her financial disclosure form. Must have forgotten about the other one, since it was only two days a week and another six figures.

https://www.fcnp.com/2024/08/08/council-member-caroline-lian-has-resigned-her-council-seat-effective-today-august-8-2024/

Good, glad she was referred to the commonwealth attorney for falsifying her disclosure form. Hope she is prosecuted.

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DC should be prosecuting her! Why doesn't Bowser take a hard line on this?

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Yup. Bad apples like Caroline Lian are going to be an excuse to curtail hybrid work schedules. I hope someone prosecutes her. She shouldn't be allowed to just resign and walk away with her pension intact after defrauding two employers and DC tax payers. And if you've ever tried to deal with DC Dept of Buildings--it is a particularly dysfunctional part of DC government.

I want our POS mayor to call these POS District employees back in the office five days a week. These paper pushers are coasting on fat cushy jobs and most of them live in the suburbs. And then you have the rest of them that are working other job under the table during this hybrid bullshlt. As a 16 year DC resident, enuff is efukking nuff.

The District--what a land of opportunity! Live in the burbs and work from home while you collect a second hybrid salary! Then risk having a medical emergency when you're actually in the office and have 911 send emergency response to the wrong side of town.

Not only collecting a 2nd paycheck, but also qualifying for a bigger pension. Nuts.

And she keeps that pension because she was allowed to "resign." WTF is wrong with DC government.

DC government does not have pensions. The only people with pensions were those hired in the 1980s or earlier. They only offer a 5% match for a 401k type plan that you have to vest in.

As a DC gov employee who is incredibly hard working and passionate about their job, cases like this make me want to scream. It really devalues the work of everyone employed by DC gov.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem. Was she getting the work done? If so, who cares? She was hustling and making a better life for herself. Everyone else can and should do the same. You don't give a enough work then why not get some side hustles? Good for her.

Have you dealt with the DC Department of Buildings? It's not an efficient and well-run place. She was its #2. Can't speak to Fannie Mae and what she did there or her Falls Church gig.

+1 It's a new agency only 2 years old. You think that it's second in command should be effectively a part-timer?

+2 No wonder everything takes so long with zero accountability over there. It's leadership treated it like an afterthought and was basically a ghost hire.

Why hasn't the Director been fired yet? He's the one that hired her as COO, granted her a residency waiver, and promoted her to be his Deputy while not even realizing that she was working full time at Freddie Mac.

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Yup. Bad apples like Caroline Lian are going to be an excuse to curtail hybrid work schedules. I hope someone prosecutes her. She shouldn't be allowed to just resign and walk away with her pension intact after defrauding two employers and DC tax payers. And if you've ever tried to deal with DC Dept of Buildings--it is a particularly dysfunctional part of DC government.

I want our POS mayor to call these POS District employees back in the office five days a week. These paper pushers are coasting on fat cushy jobs and most of them live in the suburbs. And then you have the rest of them that are working other job under the table during this hybrid bullshlt. As a 16 year DC resident, enuff is efukking nuff.

The District--what a land of opportunity! Live in the burbs and work from home while you collect a second hybrid salary! Then risk having a medical emergency when you're actually in the office and have 911 send emergency response to the wrong side of town.

Not only collecting a 2nd paycheck, but also qualifying for a bigger pension. Nuts.

And she keeps that pension because she was allowed to "resign." WTF is wrong with DC government.

DC government does not have pensions. The only people with pensions were those hired in the 1980s or earlier. They only offer a 5% match for a 401k type plan that you have to vest in.

As a DC gov employee who is incredibly hard working and passionate about their job, cases like this make me want to scream. It really devalues the work of everyone employed by DC gov.

+1, she hadn’t been with DC for 5 years so she was not fully vested in the retirement plan. As a longtime DC gov’t employee I’m also pissed at the show Bowser made of dragging employees back to the office 4 days a week yet her number 2 at DOB was allowed to telework 3 days a week. And now she will be cited to as the reason we can’t even return to our previous 2 day a week telework policy.