Rich white kids at Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're high income white people but paying for college isn't going to be exactly easy (we became high earners later in life and it'll be a cash situation that precludes some savings but that's a blessing overall).

My fancy-looking white son has experienced living and going to school in both an urban, very diverse setting and a more suburban, extremely privileged one.

While I want the best for him and ultimately want him to be successful AND happy, I have to say that the most appealing thing to me personally seems to be him going to a state school where he can have a more diverse experience and possible reconnect with some of his friends who are more down to earth. I'm sure he would fit in at a fancy college and he might even be able to get into one, but it would be a bear to pay for and in the end I know what it looks like to close off your world to socio-economic and cultural diversity, and I hope he chooses to cultivate a life beyond sporty boaty bros.

State schools are diverse in student body but very very homogenous in group. People tend to clique up through cultural clubs to stay alive in those bigger colleges. Anyone whose been to Berkeley and seen basically all the Asian-only, White-only, and Hispanic-only friend groups can see that “diversity” doesn’t mean your experience will be any diverse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isnt a race thing…

Like bc all things in life, people group off in “likes “ (likes congregate together). My private high school kid, knows he’s had a privileged education. And we are high net worth; close to 9 figures, we fly privately etc , he’s had some unusual experiences as an 18yo.

As an incoming freshman at an Ivy, I’m sure he’ll socialize with a wide mix of people….and will be most comfortable with whoever he can share all parts of his background, without discomfort.

Note, he’s not white.

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He will find that yes, race will be a factor, even with all of your money. The rich white kids will not necessarily see him as a peer that your son can say in his head to "let me be gracious and expand my social circle beyond you fellow richies!" That is not going to happen.

He’s biracial (half white & half Asian). He’s been hanging with this prep school crowd in Nantucket, Aspen and Palm Beach for the past decade - sometimes hosting them all! He’ll be ok. Whatever happens.

As someone not born into this world, what is crazy is how these kids network /know who “knows you”, so insanely quickly. Happened with summer programs and now with college (before it’s even started).

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

[Anonymous]

Is it just me or is the phrase “rich white” almost a slur nowadays?
Rarely is something nice said about someone labeled that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're high income white people but paying for college isn't going to be exactly easy (we became high earners later in life and it'll be a cash situation that precludes some savings but that's a blessing overall).

My fancy-looking white son has experienced living and going to school in both an urban, very diverse setting and a more suburban, extremely privileged one.

While I want the best for him and ultimately want him to be successful AND happy, I have to say that the most appealing thing to me personally seems to be him going to a state school where he can have a more diverse experience and possible reconnect with some of his friends who are more down to earth. I'm sure he would fit in at a fancy college and he might even be able to get into one, but it would be a bear to pay for and in the end I know what it looks like to close off your world to socio-economic and cultural diversity, and I hope he chooses to cultivate a life beyond sporty boaty bros.

State schools are diverse in student body but very very homogenous in group. People tend to clique up through cultural clubs to stay alive in those bigger colleges. Anyone whose been to Berkeley and seen basically all the Asian-only, White-only, and Hispanic-only friend groups can see that “diversity” doesn’t mean your experience will be any diverse

This is so sad. Not what diversity should mean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So we're high income white people but paying for college isn't going to be exactly easy (we became high earners later in life and it'll be a cash situation that precludes some savings but that's a blessing overall).

My fancy-looking white son has experienced living and going to school in both an urban, very diverse setting and a more suburban, extremely privileged one.

While I want the best for him and ultimately want him to be successful AND happy, I have to say that the most appealing thing to me personally seems to be him going to a state school where he can have a more diverse experience and possible reconnect with some of his friends who are more down to earth. I'm sure he would fit in at a fancy college and he might even be able to get into one, but it would be a bear to pay for and in the end I know what it looks like to close off your world to socio-economic and cultural diversity, and I hope he chooses to cultivate a life beyond sporty boaty bros.

State schools are diverse in student body but very very homogenous in group. People tend to clique up through cultural clubs to stay alive in those bigger colleges. Anyone whose been to Berkeley and seen basically all the Asian-only, White-only, and Hispanic-only friend groups can see that “diversity” doesn’t mean your experience will be any diverse

This is so sad. Not what diversity should mean

Why is that sad? Everyone has access to a top quality education, and everyone can choose to be friends with whomever they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is the phrase “rich white” almost a slur nowadays?
Rarely is something nice said about someone labeled that way.

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Absolutely.
Replace rich with successful, drop race altogether, and the thread would be about successful students at Ivy League colleges supporting each other. Sounds pretty normal and healthy to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is the phrase “rich white” almost a slur nowadays?
Rarely is something nice said about someone labeled that way.

The colleges themselves are trying to shake off this legacy. Partially because "rich white" tends to be exclusive, and colleges need to feign inclusivity for donor dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So called 'connections' is BS for the most part for normal middle class folks.

Exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is the phrase “rich white” almost a slur nowadays?
Rarely is something nice said about someone labeled that way.

.

Absolutely.
Replace rich with successful, drop race altogether, and the thread would be about successful students at Ivy League colleges supporting each other. Sounds pretty normal and healthy to me.

That's a pretty twisty logic jump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gay/trans types all hang together too. does that make them bad people?

Survival instinct, of course.

Are you saying it's the same reason the wealthy hang together?

What to gay and trans students need to be protected from at an Ivy league school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gay/trans types all hang together too. does that make them bad people?

Survival instinct, of course.

Are you saying it's the same reason the wealthy hang together?

What to gay and trans students need to be protected from at an Ivy league school?

Sigh, nothing, absolutely nothing.

Feel free to head back to your country club brunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gay/trans types all hang together too. does that make them bad people?

Survival instinct, of course.

Are you saying it's the same reason the wealthy hang together?

What to gay and trans students need to be protected from at an Ivy league school?

Sigh, nothing, absolutely nothing.

Feel free to head back to your country club brunch.

Your victim routine is tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it just me or is the phrase “rich white” almost a slur nowadays?
Rarely is something nice said about someone labeled that way.

Yes in college admissions, because they get unfair advantage and are less qualified.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/study-harvard-finds-43-percent-white-students-are-legacy-athletes-n1060361

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So called 'connections' is BS for the most part for normal middle class folks.

Exactly

If you come from LC/MC, what do you bring to the table that those rich white kids want to hang out with you? It is like a person who is fat, broke and lazy but yet wants to have a beautiful model girlfriend. The real world does not operate that way.

My DS, from a MC family, just finished his first-year at an Ivy school as a recruited athlete and this is what he told me: 1- Wealthy kids wanted to hang out with him because they want to be "cool"; 2- They can tag with him to cool parties and talk to pretty girls that they can't do that on their own; 3) My DS can play guitar and sing, so girls are naturally drawn to him (it also happened in HS), and those wealthy kids want to hang out with DS because they want to be like him. One of the wealthy kids, whose father is a CEO of a F500 company, flew him to Vail during winter break in a private jet to stay at his parents' vacation home for two weeks and gave him 10K spending money. He also promises DS that his mother will get DS an internship if DS is his friend during the next four years in college and beyond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isnt a race thing…

Like bc all things in life, people group off in “likes “ (likes congregate together). My private high school kid, knows he’s had a privileged education. And we are high net worth; close to 9 figures, we fly privately etc , he’s had some unusual experiences as an 18yo.

As an incoming freshman at an Ivy, I’m sure he’ll socialize with a wide mix of people….and will be most comfortable with whoever he can share all parts of his background, without discomfort.

Note, he’s not white.

.
He will find that yes, race will be a factor, even with all of your money. The rich white kids will not necessarily see him as a peer that your son can say in his head to "let me be gracious and expand my social circle beyond you fellow richies!" That is not going to happen.

He’s biracial (half white & half Asian). He’s been hanging with this prep school crowd in Nantucket, Aspen and Palm Beach for the past decade - sometimes hosting them all! He’ll be ok. Whatever happens.

As someone not born into this world, what is crazy is how these kids network /know who “knows you”, so insanely quickly. Happened with summer programs and now with college (before it’s even started).

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

Well if he survived a mom that speaks like this and constantly is bragging about the family HHI on nearly every thread she posts on, I’m sure he’ll be fine in college. Unless he takes after mom.