NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

That’s my Joe. 💪🏼

You think swing voters in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, etc are going to respect Democrats after they hound Joe Biden out of office? No f#cking way.

This is such a DC bubble debacle, mixed in with bedwetting rich donors from LA and NYC. Remain calm and carry on, you disloyal stoolies.

I was hard core for Biden but the debate, Stephanopoulos interview, press conference, and holt interview are not one offs. There is no way he could campaign effectively against Trump. He is feeble and frail.

Democrats will be respected for putting loyalty to country above loyalty to their candidate something republicans are no longer capable of doing

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This is going to be such a disaster. I wish he hadn’t gone for a second term in the first place. Then we would’ve had a whole primary season of meeting the new up and comers. And Harris would have had to compete with the others. But here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be a huge mess, and the ballots in some states may not be able to be changed. But it needs to happen.

Biden may release his delegates to Harris or he may release them generally to have an open or semi-open conference.

I don't believe that ballots are an issue. The Democrats don't have an official candidate yet so what would be on the ballots at this point?

Heritage Foundation has identified potential issues
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-working-election-legal-challenges-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination
Heritage points out that many states — including swing states such as Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin — might not allow a replacement on the ballot.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death. Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year — it also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

Georgia would allow Biden to withdraw up to 60 days before the election. If Biden withdraws afterward, his name would remain on the ballot but votes for him would be discarded.

Well the democrats have not nominated a candidate yet. So his name is not on the Ballot.

I'm confused how states can have a deadline in June before the convention (Nevada per the above).

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

That’s my Joe. 💪🏼

You think swing voters in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, etc are going to respect Democrats after they hound Joe Biden out of office? No f#cking way.

This is such a DC bubble debacle, mixed in with bedwetting rich donors from LA and NYC. Remain calm and carry on, you disloyal stoolies.

I was hard core for Biden but the debate, Stephanopoulos interview, press conference, and holt interview are not one offs. There is no way he could campaign effectively against Trump. He is feeble and frail.

Democrats will be respected for putting loyalty to country above loyalty to their candidate something republicans are no longer capable of doing

Democrats are most definitely not putting loyalty to country above loyalty to their candidate. If that was the case, Joe would have been out of office long before now. It’s only now that they’ve been caught lying and don’t want to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

Nooooo. Obama famously told him to step aside and Joe listened. It was terrible advice. Obama was high on his own supply of hubris.

Wasn’t just Obama, it was all these same Ivy Leaguers, with the Clintons also both being in the Ivy club. That has always bothered Joe behind closed doors. He’s never felt accepted. Shit, even Trump and Vance are Ivy Leaguers. You think this is all a coincidence? It’s a cartel.

Schiff and Schumer also both Ivy Leaguers. Same for all these TV talking heads and columnists leading the charge.

It's the same in many other countries, PPs, if that consoles you. There are always some elite universities that attract the top political hounds, who then go on to lead their country. It's Oxford for the UK, the former ENA for France...

Translation: A handful of universities are intel / deep state training grounds.

This is the origins of the old boys club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2PyeXRwhCE
Monty python does a funny skit

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This is so unfair to Trump. His convention was geared to attack Biden and Biden is dropping out. No one is paying attention to his convention.

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I’m thinking that a huge part of the Trump's campaign strategy has been to project Biden as old and feeble. They’ve been focused on that game plan for quite a long time. Take that away and how does that game plan change? Will be interesting to see.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so unfair to Trump. His convention was geared to attack Biden and Biden is dropping out. No one is paying attention to his convention.

Fox was reporting Trump's speech doesn't mention Biden at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming he and Jill want a billion dollars in presidential library commitments until they agree to step down. But if he can’t run for re-election why remain in the WH at all? Because that will be the GOP’s next attack: If he’s too diminished to campaign, he’s too diminished to finish his term.

He could hand over the reins to VP Harris any day now. The MAGA 🤯 would be epic.

It could be lovely either way: if Biden were to step down as President, he’d give America its first woman president (and Indian American and Black), thus blowing the minds of Republicans and giving her the incumbency advantage. If Biden stepped down just as candidate, it would free her to much harder campaigning.

Frankly I’ll support them in any direction.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking that a huge part of the Trump's campaign strategy has been to project Biden as old and feeble. They’ve been focused on that game plan for quite a long time. Take that away and how does that game plan change? Will be interesting to see.

Yes because against Harris, Trump will look like the crypt keeper (which I only don’t post pictures of because Republicans would probably accuse me of wishing Trump dead or something equally insane).

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Biden saved our country from Trump. He returned the country and our institutions to decency and normalcy. I am upset that he was pushed out this way, at such a critical moment. I hope history views him very kindly. He is a good man. One of my siblings interned for him when he was VP, and based on the things I heard about his office, he’s probably one of the nicest people in politics.

I also hope the public spectacle Dem leadership made doesn’t ruin the election. Which it will, because Kamala won’t win

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Politifact believes that Wisconsin has until September

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/11/tweets/deadline-has-not-passed-in-wisconsin-to-replace-bi/

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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

Nope, ballot access too. I’m going to laugh/cry when a state’s highest court or the SC says Harris can’t be on the ticket in a critical swing state.

It’s going to happen. And yall will stamp your feet and howl about democracy.

The idea of putting anything like this, even with a slam dunk case, in front of these courts is really scary to me.

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This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.

So you didn't watch the debate.