NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

I think so, too. There are a lot of people who just want calm and normalcy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Standing up a new campaign with less than 100 days to election is tremendously hard.

It's not a new campaign. It's the same campaign, injected with a fresh new energetic candidate who will make Trump look old and decrepit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

Nooooo. Obama famously told him to step aside and Joe listened. It was terrible advice. Obama was high on his own supply of hubris.

Wasn’t just Obama, it was all these same Ivy Leaguers, with the Clintons also both being in the Ivy club. That has always bothered Joe behind closed doors. He’s never felt accepted. Shit, even Trump and Vance are Ivy Leaguers. You think this is all a coincidence? It’s a cartel.

A cartel? lol

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watching this train wreck is soon entertaining. Can't wait for the open convention... more popcorn please!

Yeah, your RNC convention freak fest full of degenerates and grifters looked so stable and wholesome.

Awwww, bless your heart, Karen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

Nooooo. Obama famously told him to step aside and Joe listened. It was terrible advice. Obama was high on his own supply of hubris.

Wasn’t just Obama, it was all these same Ivy Leaguers, with the Clintons also both being in the Ivy club. That has always bothered Joe behind closed doors. He’s never felt accepted. Shit, even Trump and Vance are Ivy Leaguers. You think this is all a coincidence? It’s a cartel.

Schiff and Schumer also both Ivy Leaguers. Same for all these TV talking heads and columnists leading the charge.

It's the same in many other countries, PPs, if that consoles you. There are always some elite universities that attract the top political hounds, who then go on to lead their country. It's Oxford for the UK, the former ENA for France...

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

The deadlocked and feckless FEC would finally work to the Democrats advantage

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

Nope, ballot access too. I’m going to laugh/cry when a state’s highest court or the SC says Harris can’t be on the ticket in a critical swing state.

It’s going to happen. And yall will stamp your feet and howl about democracy.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

If they get a good enough candidate (not Harris IMO) they may be able to raise plenty of money quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watching this train wreck is soon entertaining. Can't wait for the open convention... more popcorn please!

Yeah, your RNC convention freak fest full of degenerates and grifters looked so stable and wholesome.

The fact that Trump is their candidate reveals just how ugly they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

Nope, ballot access too. I’m going to laugh/cry when a state’s highest court or the SC says Harris can’t be on the ticket in a critical swing state.

It’s going to happen. And yall will stamp your feet and howl about democracy.

Okay. Do you really think that registered Democrat voters, Never Trumpers, and unregistered voters cannot write in a candidate? Yes, it will cause problems and litigation - the GOP is already planning a deluge of lawsuits if/when they lose this fall. Might as well give them one more thing to litigate.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?

Yes, and fairly easily.

I hope so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.

Clear as mud.

Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.

That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.

Nope, ballot access too. I’m going to laugh/cry when a state’s highest court or the SC says Harris can’t be on the ticket in a critical swing state.

It’s going to happen. And yall will stamp your feet and howl about democracy.

No lawyers, on either side of the aisle, have ever brought that up. Ohio corrected their ballot access deadline, so the Democrats don't even need to hold their virtual call before the Convention, like they'd planned. There is no ballot access issue here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

Nooooo. Obama famously told him to step aside and Joe listened. It was terrible advice. Obama was high on his own supply of hubris.

Wasn’t just Obama, it was all these same Ivy Leaguers, with the Clintons also both being in the Ivy club. That has always bothered Joe behind closed doors. He’s never felt accepted. Shit, even Trump and Vance are Ivy Leaguers. You think this is all a coincidence? It’s a cartel.

Schiff and Schumer also both Ivy Leaguers. Same for all these TV talking heads and columnists leading the charge.

It's the same in many other countries, PPs, if that consoles you. There are always some elite universities that attract the top political hounds, who then go on to lead their country. It's Oxford for the UK, the former ENA for France...

Translation: A handful of universities are intel / deep state training grounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a huge mess, and the ballots in some states may not be able to be changed. But it needs to happen.

Biden may release his delegates to Harris or he may release them generally to have an open or semi-open conference.

I don't believe that ballots are an issue. The Democrats don't have an official candidate yet so what would be on the ballots at this point?

Heritage Foundation has identified potential issues
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-working-election-legal-challenges-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination
Heritage points out that many states — including swing states such as Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin — might not allow a replacement on the ballot.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death. Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year — it also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

Georgia would allow Biden to withdraw up to 60 days before the election. If Biden withdraws afterward, his name would remain on the ballot but votes for him would be discarded.

Well the democrats have not nominated a candidate yet. So his name is not on the Ballot.