NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


The bad guys were the politicos behind the scenes running the show while Biden experienced a cognitive decline and the press that gaslighted us all into thinking he was ok when he wasn’t.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.


Legally this is true. But the democrats will do it anyway
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


It's unfair to the primary voters, maybe. He has pledged delegates, so he can't be ousted. He's choosing to step down.
Anonymous
I wonder if being home this weekend, probably resting in their nice beach house, might temp him to just hang it up.

Seriously, why does he want to work his fingers to the bone right get up until his dying breath.

If I was his wife, I would make him cozy and say, “why don’t we start this phase of our life.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Watching this train wreck is soon entertaining. Can't wait for the open convention... more popcorn please!


The stakes are too high for this to feel fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


No, and even if that were the case, just because the other guy is feeble or senile, doesn't mean you should be OK with your candidate being feeble or senile. The reality is that Biden is much more physically diminished than Trump. Mentally, they're both in decline, but in different ways. And from a moral perspective, Biden is well and Trump has always been pathological.

Biden's time is over. Harris will do a great job.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


So you didn't watch the debate.


NP here: I watched his NATO press conference. His union rally in Detroit. His combative interview with Lester Holt. That’s the Joe Biden I love. He was great in all of those, lucid, and had a mastery of the policy questions at stake. He held the mirror up to the media and asked them to take a hard look.
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


It's unfair to the primary voters, maybe. He has pledged delegates, so he can't be ousted. He's choosing to step down.


He is being pressured to. He has made his choice clear, he doesn’t want to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m assuming he and Jill want a billion dollars in presidential library commitments until they agree to step down. But if he can’t run for re-election why remain in the WH at all? Because that will be the GOP’s next attack: If he’s too diminished to campaign, he’s too diminished to finish his term.


No, it could be because he is going to lose.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


But Americans are brutal to female leaders.
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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?



That’s my Joe. 💪🏼

You think swing voters in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, etc are going to respect Democrats after they hound Joe Biden out of office? No f#cking way.

This is such a DC bubble debacle, mixed in with bedwetting rich donors from LA and NYC. Remain calm and carry on, you disloyal stoolies.


I was hard core for Biden but the debate, Stephanopoulos interview, press conference, and holt interview are not one offs. There is no way he could campaign effectively against Trump. He is feeble and frail.

Democrats will be respected for putting loyalty to country above loyalty to their candidate something republicans are no longer capable of doing


Democrats are most definitely not putting loyalty to country above loyalty to their candidate. If that was the case, Joe would have been out of office long before now. It’s only now that they’ve been caught lying and don’t want to lose.


No, they deferred to the incumbent’s wishes, which is how it has worked historically.
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.


Republican lawyers have argued that even if Harris' name in on the campaign funds, along with Biden, she would be able to access them only as the VP nominee - that is, if Biden were already the nominee and then dropped out.

There is a workaround, however, if Biden drops out now: the funds revert to the DNC and they can funnel them to whichever candidate they want. Since the DNC is full of Biden stalwarts, I imagine they'll look first at Harris.

That is my current understanding.


Clear as mud.


Precisely why the FedSoc controlled SC will have the final say. Don’t you get it yet? You’ve been outmatched.


That is just a campaign finance issue. By the time it works its way through the legal process, the election will be over. Worst case, it has to be paid back with a fine.


Nope, ballot access too. I’m going to laugh/cry when a state’s highest court or the SC says Harris can’t be on the ticket in a critical swing state.

It’s going to happen. And yall will stamp your feet and howl about democracy.


The idea of putting anything like this, even with a slam dunk case, in front of these courts is really scary to me.


Oh, good point! 🫢
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m thinking that a huge part of the Trump's campaign strategy has been to project Biden as old and feeble. They’ve been focused on that game plan for quite a long time. Take that away and how does that game plan change? Will be interesting to see.


I wonder if they will attack Harris based on her gender and race?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


The bad guys were the politicos behind the scenes running the show while Biden experienced a cognitive decline and the press that gaslighted us all into thinking he was ok when he wasn’t.


Trump is just as cognitively challenged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watching this train wreck is soon entertaining. Can't wait for the open convention... more popcorn please!


The stakes are too high for this to feel fun.


This is too serious to be taken lightly.
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