It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??
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Here is an annotated version of the plan which provides some context for many of the key points in the document. It's a fairly quick read for those that don't want to plod through the document itself.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/07/politics/republican-gop-platform-annotated-dg/

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is an annotated version of the plan which provides some context for many of the key points in the document. It's a fairly quick read for those that don't want to plod through the document itself.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/07/politics/republican-gop-platform-annotated-dg/



This is a ridiculously partisan "annotation." I suggest everyone simply read the actual document itself. It's only 16 pages and isn't tainted by a silly, biased narrative.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.


oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Politicians brag all the time. It's what they do. Just ask Joe.


Bragging about something he is trying to distance himself from?
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Politicians brag all the time. It's what they do. Just ask Joe.


Bragging about something he is trying to distance himself from?


But he's not distancing himself. He bragged about returning the decision to the states and stated that he does not support a nationwide ban on abortion.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is an annotated version of the plan which provides some context for many of the key points in the document. It's a fairly quick read for those that don't want to plod through the document itself.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/07/politics/republican-gop-platform-annotated-dg/



This is a ridiculously partisan "annotation." I suggest everyone simply read the actual document itself. It's only 16 pages and isn't tainted by a silly, biased narrative.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform


So what if it's partisan? As if Fox, OAN, et al don't engage in a "silly, biased narrative" every minute of the day. Are any of the annotations untrue? If so, please give an example.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.


oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.


A lot of Supreme Court decisions survived 50 years, but then were later overturned. If you're convinced it's truly a federal constitutional right, then push for an amendment to the Constitution. You won't get it if that right just deals with abortion. Focus on a federal constitutional right to privacy, which would then allow a future Supreme Court to revisit Dobbs. This isn't a far-fetched idea, as the EU has the GDPR and many states are recognizing privacy rights in state laws.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.


oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.


Never a constitutional right, rather a Supreme Court decision built on shaky ground. RBG was aware of that shaky ground. Congress had 50 years to establish appropriate legislation they, did not. The current court made a decision consistent with the 10th amendment and returned the issue to the states.

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Anonymous wrote:Solid platform.


Names some specifics. Not general pablum.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.


oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.


Never a constitutional right, rather a Supreme Court decision built on shaky ground. RBG was aware of that shaky ground. Congress had 50 years to establish appropriate legislation they, did not. The current court made a decision consistent with the 10th amendment and returned the issue to the states.



It’s a human right. A right to liberty and pursuit of happiness. Not something one state can ban while others don’t. Like slavery.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??


Politicians brag all the time. It's what they do. Just ask Joe.


Bragging about something he is trying to distance himself from?


But he's not distancing himself. He bragged about returning the decision to the states and stated that he does not support a nationwide ban on abortion.


He’s speaking from both sides of his mouth, his only genuine talent. FACT.
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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.


You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?


What PP understands is the court packed by Rumpus made it legal for extremists in red states to infringe on the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness of pregnant women.
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