It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

Precisely. Stamping feet and throwing tantrums is effectively doing nothing. States now decide the issue of abortion.

As it should be.

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The states should also be able to decide if chemotherapy is legal. Prove me wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

The constitution doesn’t mention he right to ammunition specifically so why can’t we send that to the states to determine as well?

States do regulate ammunition sales so I am not sure what you’re getting at.

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The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

Precisely. Stamping feet and throwing tantrums is effectively doing nothing. States now decide the issue of abortion.

As it should be.

+1

The states should also be able to decide if chemotherapy is legal. Prove me wrong.

States do regulate chemotherapy access. For example some states require equal access for IV vs oral anti cancer drugs.
States also regulate who in their borders is licensed to practice medicine. Are you living under a rock?

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

Precisely. Stamping feet and throwing tantrums is effectively doing nothing. States now decide the issue of abortion.

As it should be.

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The states should also be able to decide if chemotherapy is legal. Prove me wrong.

States should also be able to decide the issue of viagra and whether to ban it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

Precisely. Stamping feet and throwing tantrums is effectively doing nothing. States now decide the issue of abortion.

As it should be.

+1

The states should also be able to decide if chemotherapy is legal. Prove me wrong.

States do regulate chemotherapy access. For example some states require equal access for IV vs oral anti cancer drugs.
States also regulate who in their borders is licensed to practice medicine. Are you living under a rock?

It’s been a long time since I’ve thought “whoosh” but it applies. DP.

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Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

Did you read the article? Gist is that the Republican platform is scary because it is really pretty sensible and therefore has a winning message.

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Here’s a few - ban erectile dysfunction drugs. Ban cosmetic breast implants.

Sure fire way to get Republicans to move out of your state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.

Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.

You are picking one part of the sentence and ignoring the rest - which clearly states: "...and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights." Meaning, states can VOTE to restrict or not restrict abortion, according to the will of the people - as they are currently doing. What about this do you not understand?

After he bragged about overturning Roe v Wade??

Um... are you aware what "overturning Roe v Wade" did? IT SENT THE DECISION BACK TO THE STATES. Dear god, educate yourself.

oh I am educated plenty. It was recognized as a federal constitutional right for 50 years. Why overturn it? And why did Trump brag he played a role in that?? Now he is changing his tune? Too late.

Because it’s not a federal constitutional right. It’s not in there. If you want one, go through the proper channel - a constitutional amendment. Until then, abortion is a state matter.

Cancer treatment is not a constitutional right.
Growing apples is not a constitutional right.
Fishing in public waters is not a constitutional right.
Driving a vehicle is not a constitutional right.

Should we keep going down this road?

This isn't making the point you think you're making.

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Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

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Honestly, the Democrats on this site are proving themselves to be even *more* nutty than I had originally thought. Not a huge Trump fan, but his platform sounds good to me. Certainly, it's a lot better than anything the Democrats have put forth.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a few - ban erectile dysfunction drugs. Ban cosmetic breast implants.

Sure fire way to get Republicans to move out of your state.

Right, because no Democrats use erectile dysfunction drugs or have cosmetic breast implants. Such a smart and winning argument.

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Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

Did you read the article? Gist is that the Republican platform is scary because it is really pretty sensible and therefore has a winning message.

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Dems are scared to death about that. Hence, all the strawmen and outright lies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

+100
Honestly, the Democrats on this site are proving themselves to be even *more* nutty than I had originally thought. Not a huge Trump fan, but his platform sounds good to me. Certainly, it's a lot better than anything the Democrats have put forth.

Because you don't care about abortion or the environment or helping the poor. We understand.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

+100
Honestly, the Democrats on this site are proving themselves to be even *more* nutty than I had originally thought. Not a huge Trump fan, but his platform sounds good to me. Certainly, it's a lot better than anything the Democrats have put forth.

Because you don't care about abortion or the environment or helping the poor. We understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Guardian: The Republicans’ new party platform is scary – because it can win

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/10/republican-platform-liberal-rebrand

You might be less scared if you stop reading the hyperventilating, hyper left Guardian and expand your media sources. Maybe you wouldn’t have been as surprised by Biden’s debate performance if you’d been consistently doing so.

Did you read the article? Gist is that the Republican platform is scary because it is really pretty sensible and therefore has a winning message.

Only someone who doesn’t gaf about abortion rights thinks it’s a sensible message. Sorry ladies if you happen to live in the wrong state your health care is going to be decided by non-medically trained politicians based on their religious beliefs.