I agree with Dr Laura.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Ive never used the word of care to use it. I did use the example of the double std of things like the use of the word. My main point is that AfricanAmericans are very sensitive and thus seem to be looking for racism under every stone and thus seem to find the illusion of racism even when it doesnt exist.


They have a right to be sensitive. Discrimination is real. So what if they get it wrong once in a while? Until we are perfect in our behavior as a race, we have no right to expect that their reactions to us are going to be perfect, either. And judging from the other things Dr. Laura said in the exchange, as well as her apology later, it's pretty clear that the caller understood Schlessinger's real feelings even if she didn't correctly parse the Dr's initial words.
Anonymous
I think Tim Wise has the clearest opinion on this. That is an offensive word. There is no doubt about it. As such, we, as white folks, should not say it. Black folks need to decide, as a community, whether they consider it acceptable for themselves to use it. Whether it is capable of being co-opted and diffused of its hate through re-appropriating it. That is there conversation to have. We should not be weighing in on that. If we don't like what they decide, tough... it's not our decision.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Tim Wise has the clearest opinion on this. That is an offensive word. There is no doubt about it. As such, we, as white folks, should not say it. Black folks need to decide, as a community, whether they consider it acceptable for themselves to use it. Whether it is capable of being co-opted and diffused of its hate through re-appropriating it. That is there conversation to have. We should not be weighing in on that. If we don't like what they decide, tough... it's not our decision.


I think we should just let the word die its natural death. Having said that, I am fortunate that I don't hang around anyone who uses that word, black or white. While I understand why some black people would want to use the word, I don't agree with it, and just don't ever want to hear it in my presence. Even my extremely racist mother taught us that people with class (yes, the irony) never use that word, no matter what.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Acutally the reason for all the typos was because I was typing on my smartphone that uses suretype and mixes up the words.

So the metric for determining a racist is: if they question a double standard? Really?


On DCUM misspelling, mistakes in grammar, also make you an "idiot," "moron," "sexist," "racist," and to answer your question, all the posters on DCUM are the epitome of political correctness. They only care about double standards if they are pregnant and employer doesn't give them 9 months off with pay and then an additional 32 weeks to "bond" with baby.

I agree with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, as an African American, I must say that I am not surprised by you comments. I have always known that there is so much that others would love to say about me or to me.
But keep in mind, there are many things that I hold back on too. These are things that aren't even insults, but observations that I think many others would find offensive. Things having to do with white family structure, and so on (won't elaborate).
Importantly, even though on the outside, I appear to be the model black woman, you really wouldn't guess what I go through. I am thin, pretty, make 300K a year, well educated, parents well educated, and even married to a white man! I speak foreign languages, traveled and so on. That should do the trick, shouldn't it? But I hope that you understand that I often ask myself things like why the white women I work with get more relaxed schedules when they have babies, and why they make 50K more than I do. (BTW, before you get into that bell curve nonsense, my SAT scores were over 1400 in the days that no one "studied" for them, so were my 4 sisters'). In the end, the stress is unbearable at times.
For the record, I would never let Dr. Laura into my home because she is crass, and that was before these comments. Also, my husband does not hang out with low classed people like the ones that caller identified as her husband's "friends".


Why not elaborate? Perhaps then there would be a point to your post. And presumable your family is half white, so now your family structure is affected. My family is half white, half black. I'd be interested.

As for the rest of it, it just sounds like a lot of meaningless bragging to show how brilliant you are, but it really doesn't say much else, and we can't really know or dispute the veracity, can we?

Oh, the stress of being thin, pretty, having high SAT scores, and making $300k a year...woe is me.


When you're right, you're right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Ive never used the word of care to use it. I did use the example of the double std of things like the use of the word. My main point is that AfricanAmericans are very sensitive and thus seem to be looking for racism under every stone and thus seem to find the illusion of racism even when it doesnt exist.


I agree. I worked with an African American woman who yelled discrimination and threatened to file grievances with EEOC at every perceived act of discrimination. She managed to have another employee fired because she claimed White empoyee had discriminated against her when said employee asked for ID from African American's husband when he said he was there to pick up package for her and white employee didn't know him.

The sad part of any minority crying discrimination constantly is that those who are truly being discriminaed against are not taken seriously.
Anonymous
AA pop culture is disgusting and the AA community is in chaos. White people are the least of their problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like PP said, it's more of the subtle everyday prejudice that some people face. Think Chris Rock said something to the effect that even though he's rich and famous, most white people still wouldn't want to be him.

Well put.


And, he is correct.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Ive never used the word of care to use it. I did use the example of the double std of things like the use of the word. My main point is that AfricanAmericans are very sensitive and thus seem to be looking for racism under every stone and thus seem to find the illusion of racism even when it doesnt exist.


That "explanation" is even more overtly racist than your original post. You're a racist, your views are repellent, and your writing skills are atrocious.


Pay no attention. Some people have difficulty when they hear the truth.
Anonymous
A few years ago when Tony Williams was Mayor of DC, one of his White aides said, when referring to budget cuts, that they would have to be "niggardly." He was called a racist and his resignation was called for. This was ignorance on the part of the African Americans who accused this man of using the "n" word. Tony Williams even said that "perhaps his aide should have used another word." Why? Ignorance is pathetic and that is what Tony Williams and other Americans (of whatever race) should have been concerned about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A few years ago when Tony Williams was Mayor of DC, one of his White aides said, when referring to budget cuts, that they would have to be "niggardly." He was called a racist and his resignation was called for. This was ignorance on the part of the African Americans who accused this man of using the "n" word. Tony Williams even said that "perhaps his aide should have used another word." Why? Ignorance is pathetic and that is what Tony Williams and other Americans (of whatever race) should have been concerned about.


You are wrong. The man took it upon himself to resign. Williams did not know the details of the case and accepted his resignation.
I have said this before, it is fine to use the word "bitch" when you are talking with other breeders, but I would not ask my daughter to let her friends play with her bitch.
A doctor would call a miscarriage a spontaneous abortion, but to his patients, he says miscarriage.
Nothing wrong with the words abortion or bitch, sometimes.
That is such an awkward word to use, that I always thought that guy was just out to provoke some ignorant coworkers. Keep in mind, tons of people who heard him use the word, knew what niggardly meant, they took the SATs too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A few years ago when Tony Williams was Mayor of DC, one of his White aides said, when referring to budget cuts, that they would have to be "niggardly." He was called a racist and his resignation was called for. This was ignorance on the part of the African Americans who accused this man of using the "n" word. Tony Williams even said that "perhaps his aide should have used another word." Why? Ignorance is pathetic and that is what Tony Williams and other Americans (of whatever race) should have been concerned about.


Great. Since that's not the word in question, what is the point of your post? I don't think that a few black politicians who do not know the meaning of the term "niggardly" can negate an entire race's reaction to the real N word. The reactions are no more equivalent than the two words, so unless you want to have it both ways you have to let go of this line of argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few years ago when Tony Williams was Mayor of DC, one of his White aides said, when referring to budget cuts, that they would have to be "niggardly." He was called a racist and his resignation was called for. This was ignorance on the part of the African Americans who accused this man of using the "n" word. Tony Williams even said that "perhaps his aide should have used another word." Why? Ignorance is pathetic and that is what Tony Williams and other Americans (of whatever race) should have been concerned about.


You are wrong. The man took it upon himself to resign. Williams did not know the details of the case and accepted his resignation.
I have said this before, it is fine to use the word "bitch" when you are talking with other breeders, but I would not ask my daughter to let her friends play with her bitch.
A doctor would call a miscarriage a spontaneous abortion, but to his patients, he says miscarriage.
Nothing wrong with the words abortion or bitch, sometimes.
That is such an awkward word to use, that I always thought that guy was just out to provoke some ignorant coworkers. Keep in mind, tons of people who heard him use the word, knew what niggardly meant, they took the SATs too.


I think the word because it was correct in the context in which it was used. I don't recall any of these tons of people coming to his rescue. I knew that he ultimately quit but I thought it was a few months later. Doesn't matter because there should not have been any controversy over the fact that he used a legitimate word to discuss the budget cuts.
Anonymous
the idea that 23 million black people have to come to a consensus on whether or not the n-word is offensive or not is absurd. some black people feel it should never be used, some use it with abandon; there are no doubt many opinions in between. clearly, white people having varying opinions of its use as well.

dr. laura, any anyone else for that matter, can use the n-word as they see fit; however, like with everything in life, there may be consequences for doing so. if your desire to express yourself is more important to you than retaining sponsors, being branded as a racist, or in some arenas, even getting your ass kicked, then by all means, do not let society force you to be politically correct. use it with autotune and you might even get a record deal!

OP seems to suggest that wealth equates equality, but i imagine that part of the “oppression” the black partner at her firm feels is white people determining that her feelings, whether justified or not, are not valid. if she feels oppressed, she feels oppressed and the fact that you think she makes a lot of money has no bearing on that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:the idea that 23 million black people have to come to a consensus on whether or not the n-word is offensive or not is absurd. some black people feel it should never be used, some use it with abandon; there are no doubt many opinions in between. clearly, white people having varying opinions of its use as well.

dr. laura, any anyone else for that matter, can use the n-word as they see fit; however, like with everything in life, there may be consequences for doing so. if your desire to express yourself is more important to you than retaining sponsors, being branded as a racist, or in some arenas, even getting your ass kicked, then by all means, do not let society force you to be politically correct. use it with autotune and you might even get a record deal!

OP seems to suggest that wealth equates equality, but i imagine that part of the “oppression” the black partner at her firm feels is white people determining that her feelings, whether justified or not, are not valid. if she feels oppressed, she feels oppressed and the fact that you think she makes a lot of money has no bearing on that.


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