Norway, Spain and Ireland recognize Palestinian state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

Yes Hamas is designated a terrorist organization.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

I didn’t ask about reparation. I asked about uprisings.

And I said I would support it, given we owe a debt we have no intention of ever paying.

Is there any form of violence against Americans that you would condemn or it’s all acceptable to you? Are children immune or no?

You mean like the tens of thousands of Palestinian children killed by Israel over the past 7 months? Those children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

We're talking about Western imperialism. You're playing whataboutism using examples that aren't even remotely comparable to the scale of the destruction and havoc white western empires wrought upon the globe over the last few centuries. Their ever increasing greed for money and power will be the downfall of the entire planet, be it a nuclear conflict or the climate crisis they created but will not fix.

You do realize that all three examples I gave literally eliminated entire ethnic groups from the face of the earth, right?

But if "scale" is your criteria, how about the Chinese and Mongols?

Why don't you tell the truth? You hate white people and will indulge in any level of hypocrisy or inconsistency necessary to justify your loathing.

So pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

Yes Hamas is designated a terrorist organization.

By the West. For many in the world, they are legitimate freedom fighters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

Enjoy these moments of diversion and "fun", flailing about with your misguided whataboutisms and prancing around as if you're the smartest guy in the room. If Bubbie and the Bell Curve told you so, why not, right? Anyway, you won't convince others to drop their insistence that Israel be held accountable to the same standards of conduct that other sovereign nations recognized by the U.S. are held to. As it stands, Israel doesn't really abide by a single meaningful statehood standard that the U.S. demands of other nations. Israel isn't merely an embarrassment as an ally today, it's been an embarrassment as a supposed ally for 76 years.

But laugh it up. Maybe that mirth will make the realizations easier to swallow down the road ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

We're talking about Western imperialism. You're playing whataboutism using examples that aren't even remotely comparable to the scale of the destruction and havoc white western empires wrought upon the globe over the last few centuries. Their ever increasing greed for money and power will be the downfall of the entire planet, be it a nuclear conflict or the climate crisis they created but will not fix.

That is some racist BS right there. How could a person even graduate from high school with such an ignorant understanding of history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution.

Because after 70+ years of fighting, that's as good as it gets. Or maybe you'd rather drag this out for another few decades?

So if someone tries to steal your home, and they manage to hold you off for a bit, you'd just decide to share it with the thief? Since that's, ya know, as good as it gets after a while.

Yes. What exactly do you think has been happening for the entire course of human history? Why do you think most of Europe is Roman/Christian today and not Pagan? Why do you think European language is Latin based?

You're a moron, and a dishonest one at that. Oppressed and occupied people will always have a moral right to fight back. There's no time limit and no statute of limitations on oppression.

If someone came and tried to murder your family and take your home you'd call the cops. But you expect the Palestinians to just hand over the keys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

No. Hamas is not the government of Palestine. That would be the Palestinian Authority.

Nope.

Really? Because that's a basic fact. The Palestinian Authority is the Government of Palestine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

I didn’t ask about reparation. I asked about uprisings.

And I said I would support it, given we owe a debt we have no intention of ever paying.

Is there any form of violence against Americans that you would condemn or it’s all acceptable to you? Are children immune or no?

You mean like the tens of thousands of Palestinian children killed by Israel over the past 7 months? Those children?

Sounds like a no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

Oct 7th did not happen in a vacuum. It’s people who are downtrodden, oppressed, beaten, starved and killed who take up arms. Sure, go ahead and call them terrorists to delegitimize their struggle. It’s what Israel and its western allies have been doing for decades.

Yes Hamas is designated a terrorist organization.

By the West. For many in the world, they are legitimate freedom fighters.

Then pick your side. As far as I am concerned religious fundamentalist terrorists are my enemy. Christian, muslim, jewish doesn’t matter to me. I can understand turning away from Israel but supporting Hamas is unequivocally wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Hamas takes hundreds of civilian hostages and Europe says “let’s call you a legitimate state.”

Can’t make this crap up.

No. Hamas is not the government of Palestine. That would be the Palestinian Authority.

Nope.

Really? Because that's a basic fact. The Palestinian Authority is the Government of Palestine.

Hamas has had control of Gaza since 2007 after the 2006 elections after facing off against Fatah in war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

We're talking about Western imperialism. You're playing whataboutism using examples that aren't even remotely comparable to the scale of the destruction and havoc white western empires wrought upon the globe over the last few centuries. Their ever increasing greed for money and power will be the downfall of the entire planet, be it a nuclear conflict or the climate crisis they created but will not fix.

That is some racist BS right there. How could a person even graduate from high school with such an ignorant understanding of history?

Imperialism is pretty racist. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people here that stupid not to understand that Palestinians will never accept any two-state solution? They will never stop until there is no Isreal.

Why should they accept a two state solution. It was theirs and it was stolen from them by the West. For nearly 80 years they've been second class citizens in their own homeland, and systematically cleansed, while the West has labeled THEM, the people fighting their oppressors, the terrorists.

If someone came and violently expelled you and your neighbors from your homes, stole your property, and coraled you all into ghettos, would you simply accept the new order of things?

You all are expecting the Palestinians to act in ways that go against every fiber of human survival instinct in service of Western imperialism.

Would you support Native American uprisings against Americans?

Absolutely. America's reckoning with its own imperial past is coming. You can only kick the can so far down the road before you acknowledge that this country was founded on genocide and slavery and the descendants of those people are owed some serious reparations.

So, do the Comanches owe reparations to the Apaches (and other tribes) for their wars of conquest and the selling of conquered tribes into slavery.

And of course the Iriquois would owe reparations for their genocide against the Wyandot, Conestoga, etc.

Care for another 1,000 examples?

Or should we do Africa next? How much do the Ndebele owe?

This is fun. We'll undo the last 5,000 years of human history. Yippee!

Enjoy these moments of diversion and "fun", flailing about with your misguided whataboutisms and prancing around as if you're the smartest guy in the room. If Bubbie and the Bell Curve told you so, why not, right? Anyway, you won't convince others to drop their insistence that Israel be held accountable to the same standards of conduct that other sovereign nations recognized by the U.S. are held to. As it stands, Israel doesn't really abide by a single meaningful statehood standard that the U.S. demands of other nations. Israel isn't merely an embarrassment as an ally today, it's been an embarrassment as a supposed ally for 76 years.

But laugh it up. Maybe that mirth will make the realizations easier to swallow down the road ...

Oh, now we're back to talking about Israel?

What happened to your uprising against Western civilization and all it stands for?

Thanks for waving the white flag and for the entertainment. It WAS fun.