Wow Stuyvesant in NYC has impressive college results
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Anonymous
I have a kid at Stuy. 72% are Asian I'd say 50% are Chinese American. |
Anonymous
| Bronx High School of Science same thing |
Anonymous
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On Long Island in Great Neck and Syosset the rated Public HSs are like 90 percent Asian mostly Chinese.
They “border jump” meaning kid don’t get into top magnet NYC HS will “border jump” into a top rated public HS. They buy just for HS and leave when kids done |
Anonymous
This is anecdote only, but both in my professional life and in my kids' educational life, I've seen numerous occasions of Chinese people cheating. (I've also seen a few extremely honest Asian people. They were not Chinese though.) |
Anonymous
No way. It’s been about 10%, give or take, for a while now. A Stuy parent. |
Anonymous
| If you have the ability to skim the top students from a gigantic geography (in this case NYC) or in TJ's case (several wealthy N. VA counties), how can you not achieve top results, no matter how you measure them whether in terms of achievement or college admission? Those kids would excel regardless of their high school. |
Anonymous
I was including UVA, W&M, and VT as it pertains to NYC. |
Anonymous
OK I see. but out of state UVA/W&M/VT are about as much as private tuition at ivy+ and the ivy+ has better financial aid. |
Anonymous
| I live in NYC. VA publics are not popular. If they go OOS it's to MI, UCs, Wi, Georgia Tech, UVM, Bama. |
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There was a huge cheating scandal there in 2012 that was covered in the NY Times and NY Magazine.
From the NY Magazine article "the Stuyvesant Spectator, the school’s official student newspaper, happened to publish the results of a survey it conducted in which 80 percent of respondents (nearly two-thirds of the school’s 3,295 students) admitted to cheating in some way, with only 10 percent saying they’d ever been caught. Seventy-nine percent of all students, and about 90 percent of seniors, admitted to learning about questions before tests at least once a year." In "June when 71 juniors were caught exchanging answers to state Regents exams through text messages, was rare at Stuyvesant. But lower-level cheating, they said, occurs every day." https://nymag.com/news/features/cheating-2012-9/ https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/education/stuyvesant-high-school-students-describe-rationale-for-cheating.html?smid=re-share We now live in California and my kids absolutely see more cheating in honors/AP classes than regular classes. The cheating is in ways that kids don't think is really cheating but I think absolutely is. So many of the kids have test papers and homework papers from older sibling, cousins and /or family friends. If you don't have connections then your kid is at a disadvantage. My son was in an AP science class where the homework was graded (not for completion, but if it is correct), so doing poorly affected your grade. My son figured out so many of the students had copies of previous years homework. They also often had parents who were doctors, scientists, etc. so they could help them with the answers. It doesn't seem like an even playing field. |
Anonymous
It would if it had a similar% of Asians i.e. solely merit based admissions |
Anonymous
Up until the most recent graduating class, it did. |
Anonymous
| cheating in high school?????? |
Anonymous
From the INS link, I see about 30% to Ivies. Cornell alone took 15%. |
Anonymous
You mean Instagram? You do realize that there are about 900 graduating seniors at Stuy, so only a minority posted. |