Pregnant women are being turned away from anti-abortion state ERs

[Anonymous]

Lady you are in a dire situation, and time is of the essence. So we have arranged for you to be admitted to another hospital 45 min away.
Wait here for 20 min while we get that finalized, and another 15 for transport.
Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

Lucky most women. I had about 45 min. Barely made it.

[Anonymous]

In addition to OB/gyn and ER doctors, I am also hearing that endocrinologists are avoiding these states as well. Most of these states already had a doctor shortage so this is a particularly perverse result for them. And totally predictable. I feel really bad for the people at places like UT, UF and UA medical school, all of which are excellent med schools that people have spent their lives building into credible institutions that are now unable to fully train doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

Since I've lived in the DC area, at least a couple times a year a woman gives birth on the beltway or adjacent, in traffic. Not everyone has time to make it to the optimal, non-Catholic hospital, particularly in a rural area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

Since I've lived in the DC area, at least a couple times a year a woman gives birth on the beltway or adjacent, in traffic. Not everyone has time to make it to the optimal, non-Catholic hospital, particularly in a rural area.

And since the Catholic hospitals were consolidating hospitals, lots of places don’t have a choice at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lady you are in a dire situation, and time is of the essence. So we have arranged for you to be admitted to another hospital 45 min away.
Wait here for 20 min while we get that finalized, and another 15 for transport.
Good luck!

A case in Idaho where a pregnant woman with 18 week non-viable twins was flown via helicopter to an ER in Utah so she could receive proper care, an abortion. Took hours and not only did she almost die, but was stuck with insurmountable medical bills. This is sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not one woman had any negative consequences after birthing their babies on the road in the DC area. Amazing!

You do know that before the advent of modern OB/GYN care, maternal and infant mortality rates were really really high, don’t you?

Even if you believe that we too quickly rush in to intervene during birth (as I do), you surely cannot want to go back to the good old days.

[Anonymous]

Thank God for whoever told doctors that they have to wash their hands before surgery!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not one woman had any negative consequences after birthing their babies on the road in the DC area. Amazing!

You do know that before the advent of modern OB/GYN care, maternal and infant mortality rates were really really high, don’t you?

Even if you believe that we too quickly rush in to intervene during birth (as I do), you surely cannot want to go back to the good old days.

No, these pro fetus folks are not exactly historians.

One of my ancestors went through 4 wives, all of which died in childbirth. He would keep marrying a new one to take care of all the children while he farmed all day, until he finally died.

My great grandmother gave birth to 14 children, 8 made it to adulthood, and 5 made it to age 30.

These trad wives, conservative Catholics, and pro life evangelicals have no idea what is going to happen to them. Especially in areas where you only have a rural Catholic charity hospital for miles. There is going to be a lot of "God's will" going on, just the way they seem to want it.

Lots of women losing very wanted children, or dying themselves, or stuck with so many medical bills they can't even consider trying to have another child. In the "good old days" it was pretty cheap to die out on the farm by yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lady you are in a dire situation, and time is of the essence. So we have arranged for you to be admitted to another hospital 45 min away.
Wait here for 20 min while we get that finalized, and another 15 for transport.
Good luck!

A case in Idaho where a pregnant woman with 18 week non-viable twins was flown via helicopter to an ER in Utah so she could receive proper care, an abortion. Took hours and not only did she almost die, but was stuck with insurmountable medical bills. This is sickening.

I read that there is special air ambulance insurance for pregnant woman to cover situations like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lady you are in a dire situation, and time is of the essence. So we have arranged for you to be admitted to another hospital 45 min away.
Wait here for 20 min while we get that finalized, and another 15 for transport.
Good luck!

A case in Idaho where a pregnant woman with 18 week non-viable twins was flown via helicopter to an ER in Utah so she could receive proper care, an abortion. Took hours and not only did she almost die, but was stuck with insurmountable medical bills. This is sickening.

I read that there is special air ambulance insurance for pregnant woman to cover situations like this.

Oh what fun to wait for magical maybes and exceptions to the rule of Republicans wanting to kill women for fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lady you are in a dire situation, and time is of the essence. So we have arranged for you to be admitted to another hospital 45 min away.
Wait here for 20 min while we get that finalized, and another 15 for transport.
Good luck!

A case in Idaho where a pregnant woman with 18 week non-viable twins was flown via helicopter to an ER in Utah so she could receive proper care, an abortion. Took hours and not only did she almost die, but was stuck with insurmountable medical bills. This is sickening.

I read that there is special air ambulance insurance for pregnant woman to cover situations like this.

And how many women in rural red areas can pay for this magical.air ambulance insurance? Maybe someone would think to buy it in Alaska, but not so much in Alabama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not one woman had any negative consequences after birthing their babies on the road in the DC area. Amazing!

You do know that before the advent of modern OB/GYN care, maternal and infant mortality rates were really really high, don’t you?

Even if you believe that we too quickly rush in to intervene during birth (as I do), you surely cannot want to go back to the good old days.

No, these pro fetus folks are not exactly historians.

One of my ancestors went through 4 wives, all of which died in childbirth. He would keep marrying a new one to take care of all the children while he farmed all day, until he finally died.

My great grandmother gave birth to 14 children, 8 made it to adulthood, and 5 made it to age 30.

These trad wives, conservative Catholics, and pro life evangelicals have no idea what is going to happen to them. Especially in areas where you only have a rural Catholic charity hospital for miles. There is going to be a lot of "God's will" going on, just the way they seem to want it.

Lots of women losing very wanted children, or dying themselves, or stuck with so many medical bills they can't even consider trying to have another child. In the "good old days" it was pretty cheap to die out on the farm by yourself.

Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not one woman had any negative consequences after birthing their babies on the road in the DC area. Amazing!

You do know that before the advent of modern OB/GYN care, maternal and infant mortality rates were really really high, don’t you?

Even if you believe that we too quickly rush in to intervene during birth (as I do), you surely cannot want to go back to the good old days.

No, these pro fetus folks are not exactly historians.

One of my ancestors went through 4 wives, all of which died in childbirth. He would keep marrying a new one to take care of all the children while he farmed all day, until he finally died.

My great grandmother gave birth to 14 children, 8 made it to adulthood, and 5 made it to age 30.

These trad wives, conservative Catholics, and pro life evangelicals have no idea what is going to happen to them. Especially in areas where you only have a rural Catholic charity hospital for miles. There is going to be a lot of "God's will" going on, just the way they seem to want it.

Lots of women losing very wanted children, or dying themselves, or stuck with so many medical bills they can't even consider trying to have another child. In the "good old days" it was pretty cheap to die out on the farm by yourself.

I think most of us have heard of the “pick me girls” or “not like the other girls” and how those poor girls are the way they are because we are all reared in a toxic soup of misogyny and we tend to assume that all girls are vapid, empty creatures without an inner life.

But the trad wives don’t understand that they’re tokens. And tokens get spent. You are correct that they will have no protection, and they think that’s okay, they don’t want or need protection. But a person doesn’t until they do. When a woman has her seventh kid and realizes that’s enough, that’s too much; what’s the protection? What if she feels dead inside after fifteen years of caring for others? What about when she realizes she has no value to her community, and not because mothering isn’t incredibly important, but because misogynists do not value women’s work.

[Anonymous]

How are parents here doing a better job of teaching their children to become better partners down the road?