Pregnant women are being turned away from anti-abortion state ERs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

Police officers and EMTs deliver babies on the side of the road. A hospital can't handle doing this? Give me a break.

Oh my. You have to be joking, right?? One-childbirth can be complicated by a multitude of factors. Even healthy pregnancies can go wrong at the last minute. And two-delivering babies isn’t profitable for hospitals. And healthcare is a profit driven business in this country.

I recently delivered a baby. I was in the hospital for about 15 minutes before the baby came out in one push. No epidural. 2 days Normal postpartum care. That cost my insurance $27,000. That is insanely profitable. I can't imagine what they charge for complications or other difficult deliveries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To use an oft repeated phrase…unintended consequences…

This was not unintended. This is exactly what the GOP and Evangelicals want for the country.

+1 this is by design. Even down to the poster with the rich friend who can just fly to another state for adequate healthcare. Because I guarantee the red state Republican politicians' wives, girlfriends, mistresses and daughters will be flying out of state if they need an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Nice job you stupid fks. Your little attempts to end Roe are backfiring. Fking idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

Police officers and EMTs deliver babies on the side of the road. A hospital can't handle doing this? Give me a break.

Oh my. You have to be joking, right?? One-childbirth can be complicated by a multitude of factors. Even healthy pregnancies can go wrong at the last minute. And two-delivering babies isn’t profitable for hospitals. And healthcare is a profit driven business in this country.

I recently delivered a baby. I was in the hospital for about 15 minutes before the baby came out in one push. No epidural. 2 days Normal postpartum care. That cost my insurance $27,000. That is insanely profitable. I can't imagine what they charge for complications or other difficult deliveries.

https://apnews.com/article/birthing-rural-hospitals-maternity-care-births-e67a91d927eb545459e83bc7b2b95a0d
Not everyone’s insurance is paying hospitals 27k to have a baby. I’m guessing many rural Americans (where most labor units are closing) have Medicaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

Not surprising. Fetuses are sacred, women much less so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

Not surprising. Fetuses are sacred, women much less so.

Women are not people, just vessels for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

That’s not a hospital. It’s an urgent care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To use an oft repeated phrase…unintended consequences…

This was not unintended. This is exactly what the GOP and Evangelicals want for the country.

Sincere question: why? Why are evangelicals like this, and why is the GOP like this? I truly don't get it and want to learn more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

That’s not a hospital. It’s an urgent care

If only you read the article.
“The facility is licensed in Texas as a freestanding emergency room, which means it is not physically connected to a hospital. State law requires those facilities to treat or stabilize patients, a spokeswoman for the Texas Health and Human Services agency said in an email to AP.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

I guess they’re giving birth in a Cracker Barrel or at home? The worst thing that ever happened was evangelicals getting political power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

I guess they’re giving birth in a Cracker Barrel or at home? The worst thing that ever happened was evangelicals getting political power.

I guess they could, but it would make a lot more sense for them to just go to the other hospital with an OB ward.

We were turned away from treatment at an emergency room because that hospital couldn't admit a minor (we were there for my kid). They didn't tell us this when we checked in. Since they turned us away, they arranged for admission to a nearby children's hospital and an ambulance came for us. I know people are having an image of Mary burying the baby Jesus in a barn, but this isn't a likely scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how this case is at all related to anything "anti-abortion:"

Consider what happened to a woman who was nine months pregnant and having contractions when she arrived at the Falls Community Hospital in Marlin, Texas, in July 2022, a week after the Supreme Court’s ruling on abortion. The doctor on duty refused to see her.

“The physician came to the triage desk and told the patient that we did not have obstetric services or capabilities,” hospital staff told federal investigators during interviews, according to documents. “The nursing staff informed the physician that we could test her for the presence of amniotic fluid. However, the physician adamantly recommended the patient drive to a Waco hospital.”

Waco hospital is just over 30 minutes from Falls Community.
I am wondering why a 9 month pregnant woman would go to a hospital that does not have OB services. Did she not have any prenatal care and know what hospital she was scheduled to deliver at? I would never dream of showing up at a hospital with no OB services and expect them to deliver a baby.

The median income for a household in Marlin, TX is $21,443. It’s not hard to imagine that pregnant women there aren’t getting perfect prenatal care. And when your water breaks you go to the nearest hospital so you don’t have to deliver your baby on the shoulder of the road.

Most women have hours after their water breaks

I guess they’re giving birth in a Cracker Barrel or at home? The worst thing that ever happened was evangelicals getting political power.

I guess they could, but it would make a lot more sense for them to just go to the other hospital with an OB ward.

We were turned away from treatment at an emergency room because that hospital couldn't admit a minor (we were there for my kid). They didn't tell us this when we checked in. Since they turned us away, they arranged for admission to a nearby children's hospital and an ambulance came for us. I know people are having an image of Mary burying the baby Jesus in a barn, but this isn't a likely scenario.

What now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

I bet these are Catholic hospitals turning away women. Oh the irony.

Yup this is the Texas hospital in the article.

That’s not a hospital. It’s an urgent care

If only you read the article.
“The facility is licensed in Texas as a freestanding emergency room, which means it is not physically connected to a hospital. State law requires those facilities to treat or stabilize patients, a spokeswoman for the Texas Health and Human Services agency said in an email to AP.”

Was she not stable? You can be in labor and stable. They didn’t have obstetrics (most, if not all, do not). My husband has a blood clot and a freestanding emergency room did not have the U/S to properly diagnose. They sent him to the main hospital ER. A free-standing ER is not equipped to handle lots of different conditions. If you are having a stroke and go there, they will for sure not be able to stabilize you the way a hospital ER would. Even a small regional hospital had to airlift my Dad to a level one trauma.

The stories in the article state that the patients were turned away, not that they made other arrangements to send them to another hospital, which is legally what they are supposed to do. Hence the reason why those hospitals are being investigated.