Pregnant women are being turned away from anti-abortion state ERs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition to OB/gyn and ER doctors, I am also hearing that endocrinologists are avoiding these states as well. Most of these states already had a doctor shortage so this is a particularly perverse result for them. And totally predictable. I feel really bad for the people at places like UT, UF and UA medical school, all of which are excellent med schools that people have spent their lives building into credible institutions that are now unable to fully train doctors.

Why endos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to OB/gyn and ER doctors, I am also hearing that endocrinologists are avoiding these states as well. Most of these states already had a doctor shortage so this is a particularly perverse result for them. And totally predictable. I feel really bad for the people at places like UT, UF and UA medical school, all of which are excellent med schools that people have spent their lives building into credible institutions that are now unable to fully train doctors.

Why endos?

Hormone management of precocious puberty, androgen insensitivity syndrome (used to be called testicular feminization), and all the many many things endos deal with, not even mentioning being targeted for treatment of trans issues, if they make that a part of their practice. No reasonable doctor trusts legislatures -- especially in these states -- to write laws consistent with standard of medical care, nor do they trust they will be enforced appropriately.

And that's not even accounting for the regular folk who might target them for their professional work.

[Anonymous]

Tons of us no longer trust the American standard of medical care. Have you not learned by now who pulls the strings?

Hint:
It’s not our brightest physicians with decades of successful practice. In fact, physicians can now be mandated to take orders from powerful individuals in ivory towers, or lose their license to heal their loyal patients.

Our system has been turned on its head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tons of us no longer trust the American standard of medical care. Have you not learned by now who pulls the strings?

Hint:
It’s not our brightest physicians with decades of successful practice. In fact, physicians can now be mandated to take orders from powerful individuals in ivory towers, or lose their license to heal their loyal patients.

Our system has been turned on its head.

Start your own thread. The question was why endos are leaving red states that are ditching medical care for women.

[Anonymous]

I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 so this kind of thing wouldn’t happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition to OB/gyn and ER doctors, I am also hearing that endocrinologists are avoiding these states as well. Most of these states already had a doctor shortage so this is a particularly perverse result for them. And totally predictable. I feel really bad for the people at places like UT, UF and UA medical school, all of which are excellent med schools that people have spent their lives building into credible institutions that are now unable to fully train doctors.

Why endos?

Hormone management of precocious puberty, androgen insensitivity syndrome (used to be called testicular feminization), and all the many many things endos deal with, not even mentioning being targeted for treatment of trans issues, if they make that a part of their practice. No reasonable doctor trusts legislatures -- especially in these states -- to write laws consistent with standard of medical care, nor do they trust they will be enforced appropriately.

And that's not even accounting for the regular folk who might target them for their professional work.

NP. The states with the highest rates of diabetes are extremely red. They don’t even realize how much and how many ways they’re hurting themselves and their loved ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

Because it’s much more advantageous for the current administration for us to be outraged than for us to admire the swift and decisive legal action they took to protect their citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

Because it’s much more advantageous for the current administration for us to be outraged than for us to admire the swift and decisive legal action they took to protect their citizens.

Who is “they”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition to OB/gyn and ER doctors, I am also hearing that endocrinologists are avoiding these states as well. Most of these states already had a doctor shortage so this is a particularly perverse result for them. And totally predictable. I feel really bad for the people at places like UT, UF and UA medical school, all of which are excellent med schools that people have spent their lives building into credible institutions that are now unable to fully train doctors.

Right.. I've heard before abortion was legalized starting in the 1960s there were few doctors. The 1950s were utter hell.

[Anonymous]

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2024/apr/21/emtala-supreme-court-abortion

Anti-abortion states are targeting EMTALA - SCOTUS will hear oral arguments Wednesday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

Because it’s much more advantageous for the current administration for us to be outraged than for us to admire the swift and decisive legal action they took to protect their citizens.

Who is “they”?

The Biden-Harris administration and the Justice departing that works for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:..and those women are miscarrying

Unintended consequences of "pro-life" policies. The "forced birthers" are causing forced birth of dead babies.

Pregnant patients have “become radioactive to emergency departments” in states with extreme abortion restrictions, said Sara Rosenbaum, a George Washington University health law and policy professor.

“They are so scared of a pregnant patient, that the emergency medicine staff won’t even look. They just want these people gone," Rosenbaum said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-rooms-refused-treat-pregnant-040150594.html

That seems to violate federal law. Why is it that forced birthers have no problem going after hospitals, but prochoice advocates are cowards?

https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act

Because it’s much more advantageous for the current administration for us to be outraged than for us to admire the swift and decisive legal action they took to protect their citizens.

Who is “they”?

The Biden-Harris administration and the Justice departing that works for them.

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What is this swift legal action you’d like to see?
Are you familiar with our court system?
It’s not exactly … quick.