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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not one woman had any negative consequences after birthing their babies on the road in the DC area. Amazing![/quote]

You do know that before the advent of modern OB/GYN care, maternal and infant mortality rates were really really high, don’t you?

Even if you believe that we too quickly rush in to intervene during birth (as I do), you surely cannot want to go back to the good old days.  [/quote]

No, these pro fetus folks are not exactly historians.

One of my ancestors went through 4 wives, all of which died in childbirth. He would keep marrying a new one to take care of all the children while he farmed all day, until he finally died.

My great grandmother gave birth to 14 children, 8 made it to adulthood, and 5 made it to age 30.

These trad wives, conservative Catholics, and pro life evangelicals have no idea what is going to happen to them. Especially in areas where you only have a rural Catholic charity hospital for miles. There is going to be a lot of "God's will" going on, just the way they seem to want it.

Lots of women losing very wanted children, or dying themselves, or stuck with so many medical bills they can't even consider trying to have another child. In the "good old days" it was pretty cheap to die out on the farm by yourself. [/quote]
I think most of us have heard of the “pick me girls” or “not like the other girls” and how those poor girls are the way they are because we are all reared in a toxic soup of misogyny and we tend to assume that all girls are vapid, empty creatures without an inner life.

But the trad wives don’t understand that they’re tokens. And tokens get spent. You are correct that they will have no protection, and they think that’s okay, they don’t want or need protection. But a person doesn’t until they do. When a woman has her seventh kid and realizes that’s enough, that’s too much; what’s the protection? What if she feels dead inside after fifteen years of caring for others? What about when she realizes she has no value to her community, and not because mothering isn’t incredibly important, but because misogynists do not value women’s work. [/quote]

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