+1 Parents that always complained to the principal have trouble when they realize they have no control over professors. None. |
This is college. There will be exposed to opinions. If one of my college aged kids came to me, I would tell them that, if a professor had a strong opinion or something similar, and if they are uncertain about what they heard, they should do some research and then come up with their own opinion. They may still love Elon Musk, or they may also come to agree that he is indeed a douche. |
I'm a professor. I say dumb stuff in class all the time, often in an unsuccessful attempt to be funny or relate to my students. I wouldn't have made that particular remark because "douche" isn't a word I ever use, but I can totally see myself trying to relate to my students through a shared experience of making fun of Elon Musk and then realizing after it fell flat that it was a dumb move.
So, do you all really never say dumb things at work that you later regret? If so, I aspire to be you someday. |
Is he telling us the border is closed? |
I don't do 'unhinged' at any level, poster. During my 11 years of higher education, I had several professors who openly mocked liberals, several who openly mocked conservatives, and the majority who kept their politics out of the lecture hall. I took what they had to offer me that was worthwhile - their knowledge of the content area they taught and I was studying - and let their opinions slide off my back just as I'd done with my one parent who was incapable of keeping political opinions to himself. I was well able to form my own opinions before I even matriculated in middle school, I certainly didn't need help forming them in college, graduate school or law school. Nice try, though! |
Hardly. Public contributions to education are like 5 percent of public university budgets. And if you are trying to make the argument that because students use Pell grants and subsidized student loans to go to college then professors are somehow public employees, that makes half the people in the country a public employee. |
Really? God, i am sorry. I am not a person who thinks we are too "woke," but I really worry about how kds are being education if parents get worked up abut this sort of thing. Professors are SUPPOSED to be provocative and this I would imagine is just the tip of the ice burg. Please, please don't complain and trust your kid |
I like Elon Musk (who has autism just like many relatives of mine), but I fully support this professor's freedom of speech! |
What productive discussion would this comment provoke? |
Could be but Elon Musk will be in prison before this decade is out for a 5-10 year stretch. It is possible to be brilliant and a grifter at the same time and he is both. As to the comment, no it is fine. It is college. |
Well, it would force students to think. Do I agree? Do I disagree? Why? What is Musk’s role in society today? Is he good or evil? Why do some people react to him that way? Why is he so divisive? Why should we care that he suggested a book? I don’t know. Just the thinking you need to think for yourself in today’s world. |
People are claiming all sorts of academic freedom, but it’s clear if a professor bashes a conservative, it’s fine, suck it up and get over it.
But if a conservative scholar is going to give a speech, well, that’s clearly hate speech & shouldn’t be allowed. People aren’t pissed about the Elon Musk bashing as much as they are about the double standard. If another prof casually mentioned that Lia Thomas is a selfish jerk, these same champions of academic freedom would want him fired. |
+1 I'm sure you kid isn't scarred by this comment. |
Elon Musk is not a conservative. At best he is all over the place. And yes you could say this about liberals as well. |
They're all adults! Why do you care? |