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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.



She's too country, would be very surprised if it's her. Gerry took one look at where she lived then was a quick "nope."


Actually she said she was unwilling to move, and Gerry was pretty upset about it.



Yes, because he didn't like where she lived. It was a non-starter for him. She's since said she would consider moving at least PT, as long as she could bring her horse. But that's still pretty limiting.


Point is, he really seemed to be leaning towards Faith over the other two until the moving thing, contrary to what pp claimed. I never heard that about moving with the horse. I did get the impression she wasn’t willing to move for him specifically.


I didn’t see any connection with Faith at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


No. No. Please not that.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.



She's too country, would be very surprised if it's her. Gerry took one look at where she lived then was a quick "nope."


Actually she said she was unwilling to move, and Gerry was pretty upset about it.



Yes, because he didn't like where she lived. It was a non-starter for him. She's since said she would consider moving at least PT, as long as she could bring her horse. But that's still pretty limiting.


Point is, he really seemed to be leaning towards Faith over the other two until the moving thing, contrary to what pp claimed. I never heard that about moving with the horse. I did get the impression she wasn’t willing to move for him specifically.


I didn’t see any connection with Faith at all.


He cried when she said it wouldn't work out because she didn't want to leave her dead horse.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


No. No. Please not that.


C'mon, guys, that poster said she was in her 70s. The perfect demo for The Golden Bachelor, but maybe she's struggling with posting. Cut her a break.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).


Leslie did a lap dance for Gerry, that’s accurate. Sure, it was toned down for a broad audience, but there’s no mistaking the message she was trying to send. Thanks for the red herring, but the problem isn’t the sexuality, it’s the desperation and lack of imagination. People who do “get out much” were rolling their eyes.

What with you constantly trashing the other women, it really looks like you can dish it out but you can’t take it.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).


I swear to god you must think that shoving Leslie down our throats, and constantly and repetitively calling Joan and Faith plastic and boring, is actually an important mission you take on. As if the producers are watching DCUM and making their decisions based on our consensus. Newsflash: they're not.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).


I swear to god you must think that shoving Leslie down our throats, and constantly and repetitively calling Joan and Faith plastic and boring, is actually an important mission you take on. As if the producers are watching DCUM and making their decisions based on our consensus. Newsflash: they're not.



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They need to preserve the women's group dynamic as much as possible, which is why I think they will do their best to have as many make appearances as possible. I feel pretty confident we'll at least see Ellen, Leslie, Faith, Joan, Susan, Kathy, Nancy, Sandra, Natascha, and maybe Edith in some capacity. I don't know if we'll see April now that ASKN is defunct (stupid of all of them, if you ask me, to create a brand than blow it up mere months later). She could show up in a some kind of relationship therapy exercise, but she might be a bit too out there for that to work. Leslie could choreograph a flash mob or dance competition. Faith could help the candidates write a love song or serenade the bachelorette. I'm sure the others could come up with good bits too. Hope the producers have fun with it. Dates that are too talky will be boring af.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).


Leslie did a lap dance for Gerry, that’s accurate. Sure, it was toned down for a broad audience, but there’s no mistaking the message she was trying to send. Thanks for the red herring, but the problem isn’t the sexuality, it’s the desperation and lack of imagination. People who do “get out much” were rolling their eyes.

What with you constantly trashing the other women, it really looks like you can dish it out but you can’t take it.




NP. Leslie did NOT give a lap dance, that's absurd. Her dance did not even rise to the level of dirty dancing. Maybe you should rewatch that movie. And get some therapy for you very odd obsession with sex.
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Anonymous wrote:Joan would be nice and mature, I think, but that would not make for good tv. Probably same with Faith. Producers will want at least a dollop of Leslie messiness. I'd be surprised if it's not her, for this and several other reasons. But I pretty much like all of them except Kathy, have no dog in this fight. Will watch regardless!



Agree the producers will not want boring.


Gerry was as boring, middle-class middle-America, as they come. If it weren't for all the crying, he could hardly be said to have any personality at all. Well, he was nice, but even that's now debatable.

All the excitement came from the women competing for Gerry's roses. And that was OK.

Leslie is the opposite end of that, making all the wrong choices then feeling sorry for herself, and I don't think they want that either. Faith gets on a motorcycle, rides her horse, and gets out. I actually know nothing about Joan's hobbies, maybe she excels in cocktail party conversation in which case she'd be boring, but maybe she has some great hobbies, I just don't know.


Gerry's version of boring at least came with some modulation to the voice and expression to the face. Joan is very flat, both in voice and affect. It may be the surgery or maybe more, but it's not going to carry interest on visual/audio media. Not enough to carry a show.



He was also active, into ATVs, pickle ball, rappelling. Joan doesn't seem active.


Faith is active



True, and that’s good. Because her singing and horses would get old fast. She was so stiff on the date with Gerry though, not sure she actually does well outside her comfort zone.


It wouldn’t get as old as lap dances with a bunch of old horn dogs.



What is with all the weird "lap dance" posts? Makes me miss the stream-of-consciousness haiku lady.


Don’t know, but they make Leslie look desperate and it’s probably part of the image issues some have with her.

TBH the Leslie boosters here are constantly trashing Faith and Joan. Maybe rethink that if you want the lap dance poster to stop.



I don't think there's necessarily a correlation. I don't love any of the three. They're just okay. I think the group vibe was better than any one individual. Though a PP was correct in saying that Gerry wasn't at all interesting by himself.


I'm the pp who said Gerry was boring by himself, and thanks. I've noticed 2-3 hard-core Leslie fans here who constantly bash Joan's surgery and Faith's personality. They're also sort of unbelievably defensive over any criticism of Leslie, as if they can dish it out but can't take it. I'm not sure why they'd do that, because winning a few DCUMers over to Leslie's side is meaningless in the scheme of things, the producers aren't watching this board. If you like Leslie, maybe say nice things about Leslie but don't unnecessarily trash the others?



There are definitely multiple posters discussing various things about Faith and Joan, but there is definitely one "lap dance" poster who is like a broken record. Together with being inaccurate (if that's what she considers a lap dance, she doesn't get out much) and misogynistic (a-okay for women to be sexual these days).


I swear to god you must think that shoving Leslie down our throats, and constantly and repetitively calling Joan and Faith plastic and boring, is actually an important mission you take on. As if the producers are watching DCUM and making their decisions based on our consensus. Newsflash: they're not.



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Ad hominems are no rationale for your obsessions.
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