Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there are some students that won't go south of the Mason Dixon line.

But is that really affecting anything at Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, UNC, Texas, UVA, Georgia Tech, and Florida?

Don't think so.

Harvard apps were down 19 percent this year. Pretty sure Florida is not having the same issue.

Wrong

We are no longer hiring from
Florida schools. Good luck with your kid getting a job.

What loving parent sends their kid to a school that stopped science in academics

Don’t apply to med school or grad school for engineering anywhere else your degree is now worthless

I call bs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

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While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

A LOT has changed for Florida State colleges in the last two years.

Like what specifically?
I’ve had kids at two different Florida campuses for the last three years. Very little has changed IMO but I’m open to hearing about it. From people who actually know and not from what they “hear”.
I honestly can’t think of one thing with regards to their day to day living that has changed, or the requirements for their majors or university policies.
I’m no fan of Florida politics but there are a lot of posters who are unreasonably dramatic (including the OP with this post).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

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While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

A LOT has changed for Florida State colleges in the last two years.

Like what specifically?
I’ve had kids at two different Florida campuses for the last three years. Very little has changed IMO but I’m open to hearing about it. From people who actually know and not from what they “hear”.
I honestly can’t think of one thing with regards to their day to day living that has changed, or the requirements for their majors or university policies.
I’m no fan of Florida politics but there are a lot of posters who are unreasonably dramatic (including the OP with this post).

A LOT has changed according to DCUMers who went to Disney once on vacation and have no experience with FL schools but have some sort of sick obsession with hating DeSantis. I’m not a fan of him either but man does Florida live rent free in some of y’all’s heads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about all of the Florida schools, but as to FSU Early Action (only available to Florida residents) - here is the profile of the admitted students for this current application cycle:
ADMITTED STUDENT PROFILE:
FALL: GPA: 4.4-4.6, SAT: 1370-1480, ACT: 30-33
SUMMER: GPA: 4.2-4.5, SAT: 1300-1390, ACT: 28-31

Test scores are low for a supposedly “top” flagship in a TO world. Both UVA and WM are 32-34 ACT. Can’t comment on GPA because 4.4-4.6 is really high for most DMV school systems and very out of whack with the SAT/ACT spread. You’d need to know how they weight and whether everyone with a pulse gets an A in every AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

'

While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

A LOT has changed for Florida State colleges in the last two years.

Like what specifically?
I’ve had kids at two different Florida campuses for the last three years. Very little has changed IMO but I’m open to hearing about it. From people who actually know and not from what they “hear”.
I honestly can’t think of one thing with regards to their day to day living that has changed, or the requirements for their majors or university policies.
I’m no fan of Florida politics but there are a lot of posters who are unreasonably dramatic (including the OP with this post).

Like this:

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/05/15/desantis-new-college-higher-education-sb266-christopher-rufo-critical-race-theory-gender-major-changes-legislation-indoctrination/

If your kid really is in a FL State college, you should pay more attention to the fact that grown ass adults are not allowed to discuss certain topics in a college classroom. Elimination of tenure and firing of professors who allow said discussions. The STOP WOKE Act, etc. agree or disagree, this is a huge scaling back of traditional academic freedom at the college level. How can you send a kid to a school and not be aware of such massive policy shifts being enacted into law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what I’m hearing, but I’m not sure if it’s wishful thinking or a real thing.

Any insight?

From what I’m seeing, plenty of northerners are flocking to southern schools—including SEC universities.

What are you seeing in the latest round of applications and admissions?

We live in the state and have for our lifetimes. Applications at every school public or private are up; this is wishful thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida college admissions are less competitive as no out-of-state, high stats kids are interested. Why pay for a lackluster, third tier education? Should make it somewhat easier for in-state applicants.

'

While I don't have data for the last two years, in 2021, the University of Florida was the #1 destination in the country for National Merit Scholars, with 382, a hundred more than second place University of Alabama, and the number of NMS had been increasing for years. (Note that NMS is not the same as NMF. NMF is a more reliable guide to smart students, but NMS is a good enough proxy when comparing against institutions similar to U of F that turn all their NMF applications into NMS). NMS applicants were trending up at every other major Florida college besides New College Florida, which has faced declining numbers since 2010.

Institution,2021,2020,2019,2018,2017
University of Florida,382,342,270,231,202
University of Central Florida,107,83,91,83,89
Florida State University,60,42,20,21,25
University of South Florida,57,34,35,23,15
Florida Atlantic University,25,19,24,9,0
Florida International University,5,5,0,0,1
New College of Florida,1,2,2,5,3
Florida Institute of Technology,0,1,0,0,0
University of North Florida,0,1,0,0,0
Florida A&M University,0,0,0,0,0
Florida SouthWestern State College,0,0,0,0,0
University of West Florida,0,0,1,0,0
Florida Gulf Coast University,0,1,,

Anyway, sometimes it's good to check how you feel things ought to be against how things are.

A LOT has changed for Florida State colleges in the last two years.

Like what specifically?
I’ve had kids at two different Florida campuses for the last three years. Very little has changed IMO but I’m open to hearing about it. From people who actually know and not from what they “hear”.
I honestly can’t think of one thing with regards to their day to day living that has changed, or the requirements for their majors or university policies.
I’m no fan of Florida politics but there are a lot of posters who are unreasonably dramatic (including the OP with this post).

A LOT has changed according to DCUMers who went to Disney once on vacation and have no experience with FL schools but have some sort of sick obsession with hating DeSantis. I’m not a fan of him either but man does Florida live rent free in some of y’all’s heads.

This. The DCUM crowd loves to bash Florida, but they also love to vacation there. Anyone with any sense, including everyone in the Northeast and Ohio, are moving there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

I know someone who is very impressed with herself. Too bad nobody else is impressed.

I’m not impressed. But, compared to top VA Colleges and UMD College Park, FL is, in fact, not a hard admit.

You do realize that Florida is a top 10 school unlike UMD. Florida is running in the ranks of Michigan and UNC. UMD could never. Florida is also higher ranked than any other college in Virginia other than UVA. Where do you people get this stuff? You just spew lies and try to get everyone to believe it when the facts are very clear to anyone who does any research. Wishful babbling, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure there are some students that won't go south of the Mason Dixon line.

But is that really affecting anything at Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, UNC, Texas, UVA, Georgia Tech, and Florida?

Don't think so.

Harvard apps were down 19 percent this year. Pretty sure Florida is not having the same issue.

Wrong

We are no longer hiring from
Florida schools. Good luck with your kid getting a job.

What loving parent sends their kid to a school that stopped science in academics

Don’t apply to med school or grad school for engineering anywhere else your degree is now worthless

Oh, no. The nameless, faceless, liberal, unnamed corporation on DCM is no longer hiring Florida grads!

[Anonymous]

I am very close with someone who just retired from a top post at UF. They were there for decades and weathered a lot of political stuff without a lot of angst but was pretty unhappy with the level of interference with the academics in the last year or two. They have a number of colleagues that were quietly slipping away rather than deal with it. No one wants to be vocal about it because of the risk of backlash against their department or the university generally so they just retire or look for a position elsewhere, or try to keep their head down and hope it will pass. I think what DeSantis did to Disney probably didn’t really help — if he’ll retaliate like that against Disney, what hope does a professor at a state university have? Better to keep your mouth shut. There’s already some view that UF is viewed as too liberal or elitist within Florida political circles so they would like to move state money to other institution.

I think it’s a great school but there’s definitely reason to be concerned, particularly if this is the start of a trend and not just something that DeSantis was doing because he thought he has a shot at the presidency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

I know someone who is very impressed with herself. Too bad nobody else is impressed.

I’m not impressed. But, compared to top VA Colleges and UMD College Park, FL is, in fact, not a hard admit.

You do realize that Florida is a top 10 school unlike UMD. Florida is running in the ranks of Michigan and UNC. UMD could never. Florida is also higher ranked than any other college in Virginia other than UVA. Where do you people get this stuff? You just spew lies and try to get everyone to believe it when the facts are very clear to anyone who does any research. Wishful babbling, I guess.

Lol someone thinks college rankings are relevant

[Anonymous]

God forbid that liberal children are exposed to viewpoint diversity in FL. They might turn MAGA down there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

I know someone who is very impressed with herself. Too bad nobody else is impressed.

I’m not impressed. But, compared to top VA Colleges and UMD College Park, FL is, in fact, not a hard admit.

You do realize that Florida is a top 10 school unlike UMD. Florida is running in the ranks of Michigan and UNC. UMD could never. Florida is also higher ranked than any other college in Virginia other than UVA. Where do you people get this stuff? You just spew lies and try to get everyone to believe it when the facts are very clear to anyone who does any research. Wishful babbling, I guess.

+1
What is the pp even talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly a troll post, but this is not happening.

The reason northerners "avoid" Florida colleges is that with the exceptions of UF and maybe Florida State for NMS they always have better and cheaper choices in their home state.

It's not a political, religious, or ethically based choice. No matter how much you trolls wish it were.

The number one reason kids from the north DO choose a Florida college is the same reason everyone who moves to Florida does: the weather.

Cost is a major factor too.

But Alabama and the like are [/b]as sunny, as inexpensive[b] (or better for high stats), about the same prestige, also in a red state for kids who want that— and don’t have the “what is DeSantis going to do to education next” factor. At some point lack of intellectual freedom makes FL the state equivalent of Liberty— which is to say a less valuable degree in many areas.

No. Gainesville is definitely sunnier and more expensive than Tuscaloosa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christ no. People are flooding into Florida, including college students. Acceptance rates have plummeted at UF, FSU and Miami and are below 25% at all three schools now. Florida has become so attractive to young people that even formerly backyard commuter schools with open enrollment line UCF and USF have become highly selective. Last I checked both had acceptance rates in the 35-40% range. I expect to see FAU and FGCU become more competitive in the next few years, as well. And then there's New College in Sarasota, the erstwhile woke cesspool that was near bankruptcy with a dwindling enrollment. SJWs went nuts when Captain Ron decided to reform it into a respectable institute of higher learning. Well, New College just enrolled its largest freshman class ever this fall. Ignore the haters. Florida higher education is thriving.

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