Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, I looked up the daycare provider to see if it was accredited. It looks like the state revoked its certificate of compliance last week, likely due to this incident. I couldn't tell from the story, but I'm wondering if the daycare exposure was from an employee (the parent of the unvaccinated kid who was told to quarantine).

Regardless, it's reprehensible that the adult who was advised to quarantine allowed other children to be exposed at the daycare and at healthcare facilities where the kids sought treatment. Here is the press release from the Philadelphia Health Department.

https://www.phila.gov/2024-01-04-health-department-reports-additional-measles-exposures/

I totally agree and this is horrifying to me because I have kids in daycare and infants under 1yo don't have the MMR vaccine yet.

That said, daycare workers are not paid enough to stay home for 3 weeks nor do they have that much sick leave. I wish there was some govt backstop measure to pay/reimburse people in these situations, where public health externalities are so important (the cost is focused on the person missing work but the benefits would accrue to so many).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.inquirer.com/health/philadelphia-measles-mmr-vaccine-childrens-hospital-20240104.html

Before they knew a hospitalized infant had measles, she had spread it to 2 other children at the CHOP (Children's Hosp of Philly). One was an infant too young to be vaccinated and the other was an older child whose parents had refused to vaccinate. The older child's parents also refused to take medication to prevent them from getting measles, and one of those parents (also unvaxed) now has measles too.

Then one of those infected people (the parent?) violated quarantine and went to a DAY CARE CENTER, where now there are 2 more suspected cases.

Thank you RFK Jr, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and your crazy Surgeon General, and all you other antivax, anti-public health morons whose hard work is responsible for this.

Why are you blaming a bunch of republicans? You do realize the people that are most antivax generally lean left?

Have you taken a look into the black community's vax rates? DC was going to have to stop half the student population from attending because they weren't vaccinating their kids.

You should learn why that is that black people don’t want to vaccinate.

[Anonymous]

What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, I looked up the daycare provider to see if it was accredited. It looks like the state revoked its certificate of compliance last week, likely due to this incident. I couldn't tell from the story, but I'm wondering if the daycare exposure was from an employee (the parent of the unvaccinated kid who was told to quarantine).

Regardless, it's reprehensible that the adult who was advised to quarantine allowed other children to be exposed at the daycare and at healthcare facilities where the kids sought treatment. Here is the press release from the Philadelphia Health Department.

https://www.phila.gov/2024-01-04-health-department-reports-additional-measles-exposures/

I totally agree and this is horrifying to me because I have kids in daycare and infants under 1yo don't have the MMR vaccine yet.

That said, daycare workers are not paid enough to stay home for 3 weeks nor do they have that much sick leave. I wish there was some govt backstop measure to pay/reimburse people in these situations, where public health externalities are so important (the cost is focused on the person missing work but the benefits would accrue to so many).

I was speculating that it might have been an adult who exposed the children at daycare. If it was, in this case I have no sympathy for lost wages if the adult was not vaccinated for measles. We should not encourage those who disregard well-established medical advice and then reimburse them for the consequences of your irresponsible decision. On the other hand, I agree with you that daycare workers are underpaid and am not against supporting any individuals who cannot work because of public health advice iif they become ill despite precautions.

[Anonymous]

Idiots. CHOP should have refused treatment if they were medically able to get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, I looked up the daycare provider to see if it was accredited. It looks like the state revoked its certificate of compliance last week, likely due to this incident. I couldn't tell from the story, but I'm wondering if the daycare exposure was from an employee (the parent of the unvaccinated kid who was told to quarantine).

Regardless, it's reprehensible that the adult who was advised to quarantine allowed other children to be exposed at the daycare and at healthcare facilities where the kids sought treatment. Here is the press release from the Philadelphia Health Department.

https://www.phila.gov/2024-01-04-health-department-reports-additional-measles-exposures/

I totally agree and this is horrifying to me because I have kids in daycare and infants under 1yo don't have the MMR vaccine yet.

That said, daycare workers are not paid enough to stay home for 3 weeks nor do they have that much sick leave. I wish there was some govt backstop measure to pay/reimburse people in these situations, where public health externalities are so important (the cost is focused on the person missing work but the benefits would accrue to so many).

But of course lets get a criminal misdemeanor record for breaking QT, that will really help with future employment and day to day life in general. Do you really think that breaking QT is optional and CDC just counts on people to obey out of the goodness of their hearts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Yes. It was declared eradicated in United States by the WHO back in 2000. Not sure it can “come back” after being eradicated. They probably mean hand and foot and mouth disease which is similar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.inquirer.com/health/philadelphia-measles-mmr-vaccine-childrens-hospital-20240104.html

Before they knew a hospitalized infant had measles, she had spread it to 2 other children at the CHOP (Children's Hosp of Philly). One was an infant too young to be vaccinated and the other was an older child whose parents had refused to vaccinate. The older child's parents also refused to take medication to prevent them from getting measles, and one of those parents (also unvaxed) now has measles too.

Then one of those infected people (the parent?) violated quarantine and went to a DAY CARE CENTER, where now there are 2 more suspected cases.

Thank you RFK Jr, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and your crazy Surgeon General, and all you other antivax, anti-public health morons whose hard work is responsible for this.

Why are you blaming a bunch of republicans? You do realize the people that are most antivax generally lean left?

Have you taken a look into the black community's vax rates? DC was going to have to stop half the student population from attending because they weren't vaccinating their kids.

You should learn why that is that black people don’t want to vaccinate.

Because black people have been targeted with fake vaccines, given syphillis intentionally through vaccines….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.inquirer.com/health/philadelphia-measles-mmr-vaccine-childrens-hospital-20240104.html

Before they knew a hospitalized infant had measles, she had spread it to 2 other children at the CHOP (Children's Hosp of Philly). One was an infant too young to be vaccinated and the other was an older child whose parents had refused to vaccinate. The older child's parents also refused to take medication to prevent them from getting measles, and one of those parents (also unvaxed) now has measles too.

Then one of those infected people (the parent?) violated quarantine and went to a DAY CARE CENTER, where now there are 2 more suspected cases.

Thank you RFK Jr, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and your crazy Surgeon General, and all you other antivax, anti-public health morons whose hard work is responsible for this.

Why are you blaming a bunch of republicans? You do realize the people that are most antivax generally lean left?

Have you taken a look into the black community's vax rates? DC was going to have to stop half the student population from attending because they weren't vaccinating their kids.

You should learn why that is that black people don’t want to vaccinate.

Because black people have been targeted with fake vaccines, given syphillis intentionally through vaccines….

That is not what happened. No one was given syphillis through vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.inquirer.com/health/philadelphia-measles-mmr-vaccine-childrens-hospital-20240104.html

Before they knew a hospitalized infant had measles, she had spread it to 2 other children at the CHOP (Children's Hosp of Philly). One was an infant too young to be vaccinated and the other was an older child whose parents had refused to vaccinate. The older child's parents also refused to take medication to prevent them from getting measles, and one of those parents (also unvaxed) now has measles too.

Then one of those infected people (the parent?) violated quarantine and went to a DAY CARE CENTER, where now there are 2 more suspected cases.

Thank you RFK Jr, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and your crazy Surgeon General, and all you other antivax, anti-public health morons whose hard work is responsible for this.

Why are you blaming a bunch of republicans? You do realize the people that are most antivax generally lean left?

Have you taken a look into the black community's vax rates? DC was going to have to stop half the student population from attending because they weren't vaccinating their kids.

You should learn why that is that black people don’t want to vaccinate.

Because black people have been targeted with fake vaccines, given syphillis intentionally through vaccines….

[Anonymous]

sorry but crunchy liberals were the original anti-vaxxers. "space them out" and pick and choose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Yes. It was declared eradicated in United States by the WHO back in 2000. Not sure it can “come back” after being eradicated. They probably mean hand and foot and mouth disease which is similar

because liberals in places like berkeley calif decided to stop vaccinating.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/28/anti-vaxx-california-waldorf-schools-immunisation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Yes. It was declared eradicated in United States by the WHO back in 2000. Not sure it can “come back” after being eradicated. They probably mean hand and foot and mouth disease which is similar

because liberals in places like berkeley calif decided to stop vaccinating.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/28/anti-vaxx-california-waldorf-schools-immunisation

There are occasional clusters due to travel plus anti-vaxxers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

It happened in New York a few years back. Started with the Hasidic jewish community. So much common good undone by religious ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the measles eradicated historically, and then came back somehow?

Yes. It was declared eradicated in United States by the WHO back in 2000. Not sure it can “come back” after being eradicated. They probably mean hand and foot and mouth disease which is similar

Have you heard of other countries? And airplanes?