Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

We don’t know how old the kids are.

What SHOULD have happened is a social worker sitting down with them an offering resources like safe childcare and a stipend. As it stands now Philly has a 93% MMR rate in schools, which means its doing a lot right and this outbreak won’t go too far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

Vaccines aren’t a foreign concept. If they can seek out a daycare they can visit a clinic for vaccines.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

I would seriously consider not traveling with an infant under 1 to countries where measles and other diseases are not fully irradicated. Personally, we did a trip to India when our kid had just turned 1. Was going to wait until 15 months for the MMR shot for them, but as soon as we knew we needed to travel, we rushed to get the MMR shot at 1 and waited 2 weeks before going.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

These are the same people that when they see families dragging their newborns and infants across Mexico as brave and hardworking.

But Oh the Humanity! when they have to get out of a warm and comfy bus from Texas and walk over to a building in 37 degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a fun fact: Despite being vaccinated against measles, I have no immunity. I get labwork done every other year, and all my other vaccines stick, but when it comes to measles, it's like I never got vaxxed. I get a booster, and then new labs: no measles immunity.

This happened to me too. I had to do bloodwork for work and found out I’d lost my immunity and had to get my MMR again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

That family broke quarantine and sent their baby to daycare while still contagious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

We don’t know how old the kids are.

What SHOULD have happened is a social worker sitting down with them an offering resources like safe childcare and a stipend. As it stands now Philly has a 93% MMR rate in schools, which means its doing a lot right and this outbreak won’t go too far.

This makes no sense. It was the baby who was contagious, so no, childcare wasn’t going to be an option here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

These are the same people that when they see families dragging their newborns and infants across Mexico as brave and hardworking.

But Oh the Humanity! when they have to get out of a warm and comfy bus from Texas and walk over to a building in 37 degrees.

the more you make public health about moralizing, the more you fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

Also, if you don't have your immunity verified with blood work, it is irresponsible to fly at all. Ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

Also, if you don't have your immunity verified with blood work, it is irresponsible to fly at all. Ever.

We should start enforcing this at the borders and in airports. Don’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

Also, if you don't have your immunity verified with blood work, it is irresponsible to fly at all. Ever.

We should start enforcing this at the borders and in airports. Don’t you agree?

Absolutely. And put people in prison until they have good titers. They're endangering all of us

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

These are the same people that when they see families dragging their newborns and infants across Mexico as brave and hardworking.

But Oh the Humanity! when they have to get out of a warm and comfy bus from Texas and walk over to a building in 37 degrees.

What in the racism?

[Anonymous]

Can't we get back to criticism of people who haven't checked their titers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't we get back to criticism of people who haven't checked their titers?

Bro, we can't even get people to test or mask.