Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

Also, if you don't have your immunity verified with blood work, it is irresponsible to fly at all. Ever.

We should start enforcing this at the borders and in airports. Don’t you agree?

Absolutely. And put people in prison until they have good titers. They're endangering all of us

Just to be clear: there are rare people who do not develop immunity even if they are vaxxed and even if they had the disease. Are you going to lock those children up too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

Migrants aren’t spreading diseases Maga morons are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

Migrants aren’t spreading diseases Maga morons are

That’s right - some MAGAs from Chester took their baby to Pakistan where it got the measels, then spread it to their daycare in Northeast Philly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Did you even read the article? The baby was too young to get the MMR vaccine.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

lol.. “Here’s a fanfic I wrote of I wrote of a world where my opinion is justified by facts. It’s likely true because all of my opinions are correct because they’re mine.”

Do you think every parent is UMC?

If they can afford to fly internationally they are doing alright. Stop with the excuses.

Look, you have a choice. You can believe that public health is about personal virtue, or you can believe it’s about realistically understanding human behavior and how to change it. Thousands of migrants travel abroad every year with babies for economic reasons. Expecting them to conform to an UMC stereotype as part of your public health strategy is idiotic.

Migrants aren’t spreading diseases Maga morons are

Except for the group behind this particular outbreak. But maybe next time you will be right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Did you even read the article? The baby was too young to get the MMR vaccine.

It's not clear the baby was at the daycare. The baby had measles at the hospital. Then the measles spread to other children at the hospital. The article is clear as mud. Could have been those children who went to the daycare

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Did you even read the article? The baby was too young to get the MMR vaccine.

It's not clear the baby was at the daycare. The baby had measles at the hospital. Then the measles spread to other children at the hospital. The article is clear as mud. Could have been those children who went to the daycare

The article said (twice) a family was asked to quarantine but disobeyed and brought their child to daycare. Since parental/sick leave is so crappy, maybe we need to start offering vouchers to parents with sick kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Did you even read the article? The baby was too young to get the MMR vaccine.

It's not clear the baby was at the daycare. The baby had measles at the hospital. Then the measles spread to other children at the hospital. The article is clear as mud. Could have been those children who went to the daycare

The article said (twice) a family was asked to quarantine but disobeyed and brought their child to daycare. Since parental/sick leave is so crappy, maybe we need to start offering vouchers to parents with sick kids.

Right and they called it a child, not a baby. A child that was not vaccinated but should have been. Why didn't the daycare enforce vaccination? Why did they knowingly let this child back? Now the daycare is closed and even more parents are screwed because of these selfish ignorant parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.

Let's be real: there are not many people who can afford to miss work for that many days. Hell, I have 160 hours of PTO each year and even I would have to switch to LWOP if I had to quarantine for 21 days.

I was a server all through college and grad school and trust me, your servers are working while sick. Why? Because missing 1 shift could be the difference in paying rent that month. Also, if you can't get anyone to cover for you and you miss a shift, you are a no call, no show, and knocked to the bottom of the scheduling rotation. That means you're going to get scheduled for the worst shifts or not scheduled at all for weeks.

I can remember working so many shifts with the flu or stomach bug. I can remember working at a high end restaurant one time where the chef was so sick he sat on an upside-down bucket the whole night with another empty barf bucket next to him while approving dishes before they went out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

100% this. People predicted this very outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.

Let's be real: there are not many people who can afford to miss work for that many days. Hell, I have 160 hours of PTO each year and even I would have to switch to LWOP if I had to quarantine for 21 days.

I was a server all through college and grad school and trust me, your servers are working while sick. Why? Because missing 1 shift could be the difference in paying rent that month. Also, if you can't get anyone to cover for you and you miss a shift, you are a no call, no show, and knocked to the bottom of the scheduling rotation. That means you're going to get scheduled for the worst shifts or not scheduled at all for weeks.

I can remember working so many shifts with the flu or stomach bug. I can remember working at a high end restaurant one time where the chef was so sick he sat on an upside-down bucket the whole night with another empty barf bucket next to him while approving dishes before they went out.

+1 This is real. Restaurant industry needs PTO reform BADLY. It's criminal, and a public health issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Again, if your public health plan is to blame individual parents as “terrible”, that’s not a very good plan. The first set of parents were almost certainly not some affluent couple that decided to vacation in the Alps with their newborn. They were likely refugees or migrants. The parents of the child who was dropped off at daycare likely felt they needed to go to work to keep from losing their jobs or becoming homeless.

It was all well and good when we were maligning maga families but now, so much understanding and for the ignorant. Typical.

It’s not political. I guarantee you these families are neithet MAGA nor UMC liberal international travelers or hippie antivaxers. Based on the addresses anyone with a cursory knowledge of Philly knows that they are poor and/or immigrants. I’m not here to judge anyone except the public health authorities who somehow STILL believe that ordering a 21 day quarantine in total disregard of someone’s economic situation is a feasible way to go about addressing an outbreak.

They should have vaccinated their kids. The daycare should require it. Problem solved.

Did you even read the article? The baby was too young to get the MMR vaccine.

It's not clear the baby was at the daycare. The baby had measles at the hospital. Then the measles spread to other children at the hospital. The article is clear as mud. Could have been those children who went to the daycare

The article said (twice) a family was asked to quarantine but disobeyed and brought their child to daycare. Since parental/sick leave is so crappy, maybe we need to start offering vouchers to parents with sick kids.

Right and they called it a child, not a baby. A child that was not vaccinated but should have been. Why didn't the daycare enforce vaccination? Why did they knowingly let this child back? Now the daycare is closed and even more parents are screwed because of these selfish ignorant parents.

You are so ignorant it’s scary. The baby was not at the age to get the MMR shot yet. Stfu.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

100% this. People predicted this very outcome.

BS Republicans killed over a million Americans with their mis information and garbage conspiracy theories

Trump and Jared are both on tape saying they didn’t give a shit

Trumps medical people are atrocious that was not on Dems never was.

We had a novel virus we had not seen with idiot Americans listening to the fat orange con two bit hustler from queens with Newsmax Fox and OAM to add propaganda at the time.

Right now Steve Scalise has cancer he’s wearing a Mask all day to work with stem cell treatments
Republicans are lying sacks of crap.

This is 100 percent a Republican failure

Florida right now is discussing making vaccines for Covid illegal you people are idiots

And look who died the morons at a 50 percent higher rate than Dems. Voting should turn out better for Dems.

Trump lied you bought it move along

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are some terrible parents involved in this mess. One set took an unvaccinated baby to travel internationally. The baby then spread the virus in the hospital to other children. The parents of at least one of those children knowingly dropped them off at the day care to infect other kids. Too bad the hospital didn't notify the daycare for the parents who didn't want to take care of their sick kid.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/philadelphia-health-department-measles-outbreak-philadelphia-2024/

Please don’t blame this baby’s family. The MMR vaccine isn’t given until 1. Many people travel internationally with infants.

Also, if you don't have your immunity verified with blood work, it is irresponsible to fly at all. Ever.

We should start enforcing this at the borders and in airports. Don’t you agree?

Absolutely. And put people in prison until they have good titers. They're endangering all of us

Just to be clear: there are rare people who do not develop immunity even if they are vaxxed and even if they had the disease. Are you going to lock those children up too?

Life wasn't fair for typhoid Mary either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Florida right now is discussing making vaccines for Covid illegal you people are idiots

Whaaat? Link plz