Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.

why not? selfish

because they have to keep their job and earn money. is that hard to understand?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.

Maybe you should read up on measles a bit.

I know how contagious measels are. I also know that asymptomatic adults are not going to lose their jobs by quarantining for 3 weeks when they aren’t even sick. Public health needs to accept that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

It was an unprecedented pandemic. Low paid, dedicated public health professionals had to make decisions before there were data to guide them.

They saved many lives (despite the dolts who they reported to, in the South and in the White House).

OK well these are the consequences so...

I will never allow you to justify the selfish behavior of others, putting vulnerable people at risk, b/c they were mad about COVID. That's not a "consequence' it is a tempter tantrum.

If they want to not vaccinate and kill their own kids, fine. But they affect other people. And they, and you, should be ashamed at justifying that.

(whispers) the covid vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.

Maybe you should read up on measles a bit.

I know how contagious measels are. I also know that asymptomatic adults are not going to lose their jobs by quarantining for 3 weeks when they aren’t even sick. Public health needs to accept that.

If only there were a way to come close to eliminating the chance of having to miss work for 21 days . . . But yeah, the unvaccinated individual is the victim of the big bad public health machine. This person also refused post-exposure prophylaxis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.

When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

Shut up, idiot. The measles vaccine has been around for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.

When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell

I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.

When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell

I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

Biden did this single-handedly?

[Anonymous]

Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

+1000

Also: does anyone have any data on anti-vax parents? It never seemed like a partisan issue (at least pre COVID). Has that changed post COVID with anti vaxers now skewing more R? Would not surprise me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

I would be very careful about conflating COVID/flu with measles vaccines. The MMR was the target of a very specific and eventually rescinded smear campaign beginning in the early 2000s, and vaccination rates among certain communities have never recovered. Those include Orthodox Jews, some far-right conspiracy theorists, and far-left conspiracy theorists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

I would be very careful about conflating COVID/flu with measles vaccines. The MMR was the target of a very specific and eventually rescinded smear campaign beginning in the early 2000s, and vaccination rates among certain communities have never recovered. Those include Orthodox Jews, some far-right conspiracy theorists, and far-left conspiracy theorists.

In addition, if the adult parents of multiple children were not vaccinated for measles, it is likely that the decision was made before the pandemic, not because of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.

Now show us a chart of deaths by age.

No one is saying the Covid vaccines didn’t save lives, but the lives saved are overwhelmingly the elderly. Public health has been pretty much saying that a 10 year old’s risk from Covid is equal to an 80 year old’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm

The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.

Now show us a chart of deaths by age.

No one is saying the Covid vaccines didn’t save lives, but the lives saved are overwhelmingly the elderly. Public health has been pretty much saying that a 10 year old’s risk from Covid is equal to an 80 year old’s.

What does any of this have to do with adults not being vaccinated against measles?