Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

Shut up, idiot. The measles vaccine has been around for decades.

Measles mandates are decades old, and used to be bipartisan. If people reject them because they are mad about COVID, then they are too stupid to live. I feel sorry for the kids, though. Measles is really contagious, and can have very serious lomg-term effects, including damaging the immune system and infertility.
Anonymous
Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm



The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.







Now show us a chart of deaths by age.

No one is saying the Covid vaccines didn’t save lives, but the lives saved are overwhelmingly the elderly. Public health has been pretty much saying that a 10 year old’s risk from Covid is equal to an 80 year old’s.


What does any of this have to do with adults not being vaccinated against measles?

Nothing. People still pissy about COVID vaccines even though they aren't mandated for almost anything anymore. And we're supposed to take them seriously.

MMR refusal is actually older, based on a fraudulent and debunked paper claiming it caused autism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?

Measles is crazy contagious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.

Shut up, idiot. The measles vaccine has been around for decades.

Measles mandates are decades old, and used to be bipartisan. If people reject them because they are mad about COVID, then they are too stupid to live. I feel sorry for the kids, though. Measles is really contagious, and can have very serious lomg-term effects, including damaging the immune system and infertility.


Honestly this is my thought. Yes the covid vaccine/mandates were a failure. Well intentioned, but they're a failure in so many ways.

If you have an all-or-nothing approach to vaccines, you're a freakin' idiot. Sure, skip the covid shots. But don't be a dumbass and skip MMR.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm



The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.







Now show us a chart of deaths by age.

No one is saying the Covid vaccines didn’t save lives, but the lives saved are overwhelmingly the elderly. Public health has been pretty much saying that a 10 year old’s risk from Covid is equal to an 80 year old’s.


What does any of this have to do with adults not being vaccinated against measles?

Nothing. People still pissy about COVID vaccines even though they aren't mandated for almost anything anymore. And we're supposed to take them seriously.

MMR refusal is actually older, based on a fraudulent and debunked paper claiming it caused autism.

Exactly!
There were people like Jenny McCarthy going on Oprah to promote this idea with no pushback.

I think the fear of the Covid Vax can be attributed to the fear of autism speculation that was rampant in the last 20 years or so. Debunked British doctor's claim.

A lot of fear from people who have never even seen anyone with these diseases which can be dangerous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?


No, it's not contained. An unvaxed person can spread it for 21 days and here are all the places the people who wouldn't quarantine went

Jefferson Health building at 33 S 9th/833 Chestnut St
Exposures took place on December 19 between 2 p.m. and 5:30 p.m.
Multicultural Education Station Day Care at 6919 Castor Ave
Exposures took place on December 20 and 21
Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia Emergency Room at 3401 Civic Center Blvd
Exposures took place on December 28
Christopher’s Hospital for Children Emergency Department
Suspected exposures may have happened overnight December 30 – December 31 mid-afternoon
Christopher’s Hospital for Children inpatient unit 5 North
Suspected exposures may have happened between December 31 and January 3
Nazareth Hospital Emergency Room
Suspected exposures may have happened on December 31 and January 2

https://www.phila.gov/2024-01-04-health-department-reports-additional-measles-exposures/

BTW the 2 suspected cases are also hospitalized - no, measles is not a walk in the park
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.


When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell


I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

Biden did this single-handedly?



His federal policies. So yes he did. He also lacked leadership during both delta and omicron waves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.


When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell


I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

Biden did this single-handedly?



His federal policies. So yes he did. He also lacked leadership during both delta and omicron waves.

Tinfoil clearly on sale today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm



The Covid vaccine has saved millions of lives. If more people got the latest shot, there wouldn't be so many more people being hospitalized for Covid and dying from it compared to the flu.







Now show us a chart of deaths by age.

No one is saying the Covid vaccines didn’t save lives, but the lives saved are overwhelmingly the elderly. Public health has been pretty much saying that a 10 year old’s risk from Covid is equal to an 80 year old’s.


So tired of horrible people like you making the argument that the elderly are expendable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.


When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell


I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

Biden did this single-handedly?



His federal policies. So yes he did. He also lacked leadership during both delta and omicron waves.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/health/advocates-say-biden-administration-could-do-more-to-prevent-millions-from-losing-medicaid-coverage


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/09/20/1123883468/biden-pandemic-over-complicates-fight

https://apnews.com/article/biden-eviction-moratorium-coronavirus-da0e4cc8014b6c8a658dd1572707364f


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?

Measles is crazy contagious.


And it can kill or cause blindness or vision and hearing loss.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.


When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell


I never thought I'd say this, but under Trump we had the closest to a safety net as the US has ever had in terms of healthcare coverage, sick leave, eviction protection. Biden came in and undid it all--including reducing SNAP enrollees and disenrolling people from Medicaid. I don't think it was Trump but Jerome adams behind the scenes

Biden did this single-handedly?



His federal policies. So yes he did. He also lacked leadership during both delta and omicron waves.

Tinfoil clearly on sale today.



Clearly you are fine with Biden losing the election. Or are you MAGA? These days, can’t tell
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.


why not? selfish


because they have to keep their job and earn money. is that hard to understand?


The health department literally used to go to houses with measles and seal the house up because that was what was needed to stop measles epidemics. Is that what we need to go back to?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.


Maybe you should read up on measles a bit.


I know how contagious measels are. I also know that asymptomatic adults are not going to lose their jobs by quarantining for 3 weeks when they aren’t even sick. Public health needs to accept that.


No, smegwit, public health needs to account for that and provide proper funding, support, and healthcare access to avoid it.
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