Why do people think it’s ok to not wear a mask on a flight when they are clearly sick?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you put a mask on you and your son? That’s the part you can control, or you can always choose not to fly. Also, hopefully you know that when you eavesdrop on other people’s conversations, you may not hear everything accurately.


DP:
We always wear masks when flying. No longer get sick, as we used to from flying pre-covid. However it is downright RUDE to fly with covid (or any illness) and not mask. You are in tight quarters.

If you are in the Day 0to Day 5 you should not be flying (should be isolating), unless absolutely necessary (and then should be masked---show that you care one iota for others in the world), day 6-10 you should be masked unless no fever, symptoms improving AND you are negative.



Those are CDC recommendations but not a law.
Anonymous
"If you are in the Day 0to Day 5 you should not be flying (should be isolating), unless absolutely necessary (and then should be masked---show that you care one iota for others in the world), day 6-10 you should be masked unless no fever, symptoms improving AND you are negative."

*This
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you put a mask on you and your son? That’s the part you can control, or you can always choose not to fly. Also, hopefully you know that when you eavesdrop on other people’s conversations, you may not hear everything accurately.


DP:
We always wear masks when flying. No longer get sick, as we used to from flying pre-covid. However it is downright RUDE to fly with covid (or any illness) and not mask. You are in tight quarters.

If you are in the Day 0to Day 5 you should not be flying (should be isolating), unless absolutely necessary (and then should be masked---show that you care one iota for others in the world), day 6-10 you should be masked unless no fever, symptoms improving AND you are negative.



Those are CDC recommendations but not a law.


Do you need to be forced, or are you intelligent enough to simply accept being informed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you put a mask on you and your son? That’s the part you can control, or you can always choose not to fly. Also, hopefully you know that when you eavesdrop on other people’s conversations, you may not hear everything accurately.


DP:
We always wear masks when flying. No longer get sick, as we used to from flying pre-covid. However it is downright RUDE to fly with covid (or any illness) and not mask. You are in tight quarters.

If you are in the Day 0to Day 5 you should not be flying (should be isolating), unless absolutely necessary (and then should be masked---show that you care one iota for others in the world), day 6-10 you should be masked unless no fever, symptoms improving AND you are negative.



Those are CDC recommendations but not a law.


Do you need to be forced, or are you intelligent enough to simply accept being informed?


Stomping your feet about CDC recommendations won’t make people mask on a flight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Flying home to DC, my son was seated next to a lady who was clearly sick and complaining to her husband about how awful she felt. He was not entirely sympathetic and muttered something about having COVID himself. Neither husband nor wife were wearing a mask on the packed flight. I don’t get it.


Because masks are hot and uncomfortable. What's not to get?


Then do not fly when sick, if you cannot wear a mask. Have a little compassion and concern for others around you. Really not that difficult to do or understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now maybe you had two people behaving badly.

But you also could have described me on my most recent flight. We had covid in early December. All four of us. All tested positive, 3/4 of us had fevers for a few days, all had symptoms (though of varying degrees). We isolated at home as we should have for 10 days. By the end of the ten days, we were all testing negative. But I had lingering headache, fatigue, sore throat, and cough for more than a week after that, and the cough is still on going (more than 4 weeks after my first positive test).

So yes, for both of our two Christmas flights, I was coughing and not feeling well. But by any definition, I was completely past the contagious phase.


Sure keep telling yourself you were not contagious as you were hacking away on the plane. I hope you wore a mask when you traveled.


They waited the 10 days, they tested negative. So no, they were NOT contagious with covid.

My kid was rapidly contagious day 0-5 (as in less than 1 minute for test to go positive, day 5 viral load was so high it was positive before the fluid could even hit the "control line" (so in about 5 seconds). Day 6 it took 4 mins, so "progress". Day 7 tested negative. Fever was gone on day 3, as well as most symptoms, except the cough and fatigue. This kid will have a cough for another 2-3 weeks (they always do with any respiratory illness). So yeah, they flew home. Of course they wore a quality KN95 mask, except while drinking and quickly eating to protect themselves. Had they not tested negative, they planned to fly, wear a KN95 and not eat, only remove mask for water as needed.

No guilt at all had they needed to fly during days 6-10 in a mask, given that 95% in airport/planes don't mask at all.

However, they should still mask to avoid getting any of the other illness out there especially when they are recovering from covid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Flying home to DC, my son was seated next to a lady who was clearly sick and complaining to her husband about how awful she felt. He was not entirely sympathetic and muttered something about having COVID himself. Neither husband nor wife were wearing a mask on the packed flight. I don’t get it.


Because masks are hot and uncomfortable. What's not to get?


+1

Never wearing one again. You do you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's annoying, but as others have said - you can't control it. I always mask when I fly because that is something I can control.


+1. That includes when we are lining up for the flight.


Yes, the plane itself has better filtration when flying than the terminal (though easier to distance there), jetbridge, or the plane when taxiing.


This is not true. The plane filtration being good is a myth


Hahahahahaha


- airplane mechanic
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People suck and are selfish. My anecdote: we flew over the holidays and after noticing a sick person near us at the gate I moved and masked along with my kid. Spouse did not mask. Then on the plane there was more coughing and sniffles so this time we all masked. The spouse was ill about 24-48 hours later (fever, cough, headache) though COVID neg and recovered more or less within a day. Kid and I masked and stayed away. We got a slight cough for two days but otherwise were fine.

Just an anecdote but I will continue to keep a mask handy when I fly due to selfish and unkind people.



Put differently: three people got a mild cold during cold and flu season.

Someone call the National Guard. Our pets heads are falling off!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People suck and are selfish. My anecdote: we flew over the holidays and after noticing a sick person near us at the gate I moved and masked along with my kid. Spouse did not mask. Then on the plane there was more coughing and sniffles so this time we all masked. The spouse was ill about 24-48 hours later (fever, cough, headache) though COVID neg and recovered more or less within a day. Kid and I masked and stayed away. We got a slight cough for two days but otherwise were fine.

Just an anecdote but I will continue to keep a mask handy when I fly due to selfish and unkind people.



Put differently: three people got a mild cold during cold and flu season.

Someone call the National Guard. Our pets heads are falling off!!


Why do you have to be this when you can be quiet for free?
Anonymous
Because they are selfish a-holes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's annoying, but as others have said - you can't control it. I always mask when I fly because that is something I can control.


+1. That includes when we are lining up for the flight.


Yes, the plane itself has better filtration when flying than the terminal (though easier to distance there), jetbridge, or the plane when taxiing.


I took my Aranet on a few flights and found the same. Was egregiously high, like 1900! Air travel, from what I’ve seen, is a main driver of Covid

This is not true. The plane filtration being good is a myth


+1 Took the ARANET CO2 detector on a few flights. Sitting in row 3 (first class, near the open door) it was hovering at 800-1000 during boarding. Once the door shut, it never went below 1800. Most of flight it was between 3000-4500 (peak was 4500).
The pilots do have the option to provide "good filtered air" but apparently most do not do that (based on my limited tests).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's annoying, but as others have said - you can't control it. I always mask when I fly because that is something I can control.


+1. That includes when we are lining up for the flight.


Yes, the plane itself has better filtration when flying than the terminal (though easier to distance there), jetbridge, or the plane when taxiing.


I took my Aranet on a few flights and found the same. Was egregiously high, like 1900! Air travel, from what I’ve seen, is a main driver of Covid

This is not true. The plane filtration being good is a myth


+1 Took the ARANET CO2 detector on a few flights. Sitting in row 3 (first class, near the open door) it was hovering at 800-1000 during boarding. Once the door shut, it never went below 1800. Most of flight it was between 3000-4500 (peak was 4500).
The pilots do have the option to provide "good filtered air" but apparently most do not do that (based on my limited tests).



I took my Aranet on a few flights and found the same. Was egregiously high, like 1900! Air travel, from what I’ve seen, is a main driver of Covid

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Flying home to DC, my son was seated next to a lady who was clearly sick and complaining to her husband about how awful she felt. He was not entirely sympathetic and muttered something about having COVID himself. Neither husband nor wife were wearing a mask on the packed flight. I don’t get it.


Because masks are hot and uncomfortable. What's not to get?


Then do not fly when sick, if you cannot wear a mask. Have a little compassion and concern for others around you. Really not that difficult to do or understand.


I don't get it. If you're worried about getting sick, why don't you wear an N95 respirator? Why do you care what other people do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's annoying, but as others have said - you can't control it. I always mask when I fly because that is something I can control.


+1. That includes when we are lining up for the flight.


Yes, the plane itself has better filtration when flying than the terminal (though easier to distance there), jetbridge, or the plane when taxiing.


I took my Aranet on a few flights and found the same. Was egregiously high, like 1900! Air travel, from what I’ve seen, is a main driver of Covid

This is not true. The plane filtration being good is a myth


+1 Took the ARANET CO2 detector on a few flights. Sitting in row 3 (first class, near the open door) it was hovering at 800-1000 during boarding. Once the door shut, it never went below 1800. Most of flight it was between 3000-4500 (peak was 4500).
The pilots do have the option to provide "good filtered air" but apparently most do not do that (based on my limited tests).



I took my Aranet on a few flights and found the same. Was egregiously high, like 1900! Air travel, from what I’ve seen, is a main driver of Covid



Cabin air pressure is equivalent to an altitude of 8000 ft. You need to recalibrate the meter due to the partial pressure.
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