Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

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Anonymous wrote:1500 a a great score. With otherwise identical profiles the one with the 1500 attached will do better than the one that is test optional.

If you fall for the trolls here you are a fool

Agree. Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

It's weighted 2x what GPA is weighted in the Academic Index that many schools still use. And you're taking issue with 10 - 12%?

Huh? GPA and strength of transcript actually has been weighted at like 65% which is on the record.

Academic Index isn’t used much since everyone went TO. Your frame of reference is dated.

"on the record"

The GPA is comprised of a series of tests, and both the GPA and the strength of transcript are generally unreliable due to systemic grade inflation, the availability of makeup tests, extra credit assignments, full or partial credit for missed assignments, teacher incentives for classroom performance, etc.?

Why should we trust the GPA and the strength of transcript, but not the ACT / GPA scores (which are administered in a standardized environment free of any of the possible distortions listed above)?

OP, submit the 1500. As others have said, it won't disqualify your applicant in the evaluation process (either at a threshold stage, or during a full evaluation).

I think this worldview has been rejected by college admissions offices almost everywhere. Those days of SATs mattering much are over.

What did your DC get? 1060? 1110?

DC is not good at taking test.
However, DC is supposely smart

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Anonymous wrote:A relative of mine knows someone who works in Duke admissions. This person said TO iOS not for white kids with college educated parents- that it’s seen as a red flag not to submit in that demographic situation. If 1500 is over the 25th quartile, submit

this is flat out wrong

After this is wrong. I wouldn’t submit a 1400.

But 1500 is great.

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A 1400 is also great. Some of you need a lot of therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:Submit. If you do not, they are going to worry that you have a score much worse than 1500.

Yes.

Esp if not CA resident…data will show CA residents get the pass on TO more than others…

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Anonymous wrote:A 1400 is also great. Some of you need a lot of therapy.

For Duke???

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If “everything else” is enough to give you a realistic shot at Duke then it’s hard to imagine the 1500 would be decisive either way…

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1500 goes everywhere, with only a tiny hesitation if the school is something like MIT and the 1500 has the math side under 750. But even then, MIT requires it so .. you send it in in every case

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Anonymous wrote:DC scored 1500 on SAT. I think DC should submit to Duke but college counselor said score is below 1550 so DC should not admit. This seems crazy to me. Any thoughts?

Yeah definitely submit if want to get waitlisted lol 🤣. 1550 or above for duke bub.

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Anonymous wrote:Submit. Shows you’re academically qualified.

Or it shows that, despite expensive tutors,coaches, and counselors, this kid isn't anywhere the median score.

Try Elon instead.

Exactly.

PP why so nasty? 1500 is a great score. If it's not high enough for Duke's top 25 percent then maybe the kid doesn't submit. But how do you know the Op's kid had expensive tutors? Stop being so bitter.
Good luck OP my unhooked kid with a 34 ACT got into two top 15 schools

It's not a great score, at least not for Duke. It's significantly below average. Can you explain for us why you think this score will help this applicant get in? She would have been better off putting her time and energy into coursework or ECs, rather than a test that is notorious for reflecting time and money spent on prep rather reflecting "aptitude " for college work

OP, listen to your counselor and give your kid at least a chance at getting in.

Bc not submitting will make them suspect you have an even lower score. Not wise unless protected by the URM hook.

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Anonymous wrote:DC scored 1500 on SAT. I think DC should submit to Duke but college counselor said score is below 1550 so DC should not admit. This seems crazy to me. Any thoughts?

Yeah definitely submit if want to get waitlisted lol 🤣. 1550 or above for duke bub.

🤷 5% admit rate = plenty of people with 1550 or above rejected, bub

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Okay, consensus seems to be to submit the score. I think it is a great score. Math is 770 and verbal is 730.

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Anonymous wrote:DC scored 1500 on SAT. I think DC should submit to Duke but college counselor said score is below 1550 so DC should not admit. This seems crazy to me. Any thoughts?

Yeah definitely submit if want to get waitlisted lol 🤣. 1550 or above for duke bub.

🤷 5% admit rate = plenty of people with 1550 or above rejected, bub

How many people do you think score 1550 or above?

Don’t look it up.

Just answer without confirming the #.

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Anonymous wrote:Submit. Shows you’re academically qualified.

Or it shows that, despite expensive tutors,coaches, and counselors, this kid isn't anywhere the median score.

Try Elon instead.

Exactly.

PP why so nasty? 1500 is a great score. If it's not high enough for Duke's top 25 percent then maybe the kid doesn't submit. But how do you know the Op's kid had expensive tutors? Stop being so bitter.
Good luck OP my unhooked kid with a 34 ACT got into two top 15 schools

It's not a great score, at least not for Duke. It's significantly below average. Can you explain for us why you think this score will help this applicant get in? She would have been better off putting her time and energy into coursework or ECs, rather than a test that is notorious for reflecting time and money spent on prep rather reflecting "aptitude " for college work

OP, listen to your counselor and give your kid at least a chance at getting in.

Bc not submitting will make them suspect you have an even lower score. Not wise unless protected by the URM hook.

Yeah. Submit it. Instead of them guessing that your kid might have a subpar score, you'll confirm it.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, consensus seems to be to submit the score. I think it is a great score. Math is 770 and verbal is 730.

Do you know the meaning of consensus? There's five pages of differing views. But you should do what you want, ignore the consultant you're paying, and submit a score that's in the bottom fourth of enrolled students from last year.