Should DC submit 1500 score to Duke?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students in the bottom test quartile tend to bring something else to the table--eg, recruited athlete, URM, donor, legacy.

DCUM lore. No one knows who makes up this group. Multiple recent threads on DCUM keep saying that almost all recruited athletes and many other hooks go TO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students in the bottom test quartile tend to bring something else to the table--eg, recruited athlete, URM, donor, legacy.

Still not true...

[Anonymous]

Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

Duke doesn't publish the percentage of TO admitted; however, my child received a handout at a recent info session that stated 32% of enrolled students were TO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

Your numbers add up to 58%. Even with "overlap" that is much higher than the 25% we know were accepted with a 1500 or lower.

[Anonymous]

The point is that if you are applying as an unhooked academic kid, you really do need to submit test scores at about 1540 or so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

+1000, couple the score with the HS, and you get an idea as to whether or not it’s really that impressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

Duke doesn't publish the percentage of TO admitted; however, my child received a handout at a recent info session that stated 32% of enrolled students were TO.

From last cycle? 32% is high..z

[Anonymous]

Where is Duke’s 22-23 CDS? Why would they not release it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

Duke doesn't publish the percentage of TO admitted; however, my child received a handout at a recent info session that stated 32% of enrolled students were TO.

From last cycle? 32% is high..z

Class of 2027

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

+1000, couple the score with the HS, and you get an idea as to whether or not it’s really that impressive.

This is one thing I know they check. 1540 at a school where the average is 1480 is not as good as 1480 where the school average is <1000. My neighbor's kid got the red carpet treatment and I believe it is because her high school is infamously bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is Duke’s 22-23 CDS? Why would they not release it?

Good question. You can find some of the data in College Navigator, but not a composite range. https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Duke&s=all&id=198419

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke undergrads are about 10% athletes, 10% first gen, 20% parent or sib attended, 18% URM, unknown percentage of uber-wealthy or celeb kids. There is some overlap within these groups, and Duke does not publish percentage of test optional who are admitted. These kids are by no means all stupid. Many likely submit test scores of around 1500 or a bit less.

Duke doesn't publish the percentage of TO admitted; however, my child received a handout at a recent info session that stated 32% of enrolled students were TO.

From last cycle? 32% is high..z

Class of 2027

OP again: sorry, I just found the flyer and it says 23%!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point is that if you are applying as an unhooked academic kid, you really do need to submit test scores at about 1540 or so.

Still not true

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Submit 1500 everywhere. It won’t be the reason your DC doesn’t get in if they don’t. Even for schools that say they still want scores, it’s generally weighted about 10-12% of the total application. At least according to my DC’s CCO.

I have never heard anyone indicate the test score is weighted that high. Jeff Selingo who writes extensively about college admissions cannot even answer the question with any real certainty.

Yale seemed to suggest it was used more to pass the initial threshold. So highly significant for that step but not very beyond that.

At this point, admissions offices at places like Yale and Duke are very, very aware that a high score reflects money invested in test prep and not brains.

+1000, couple the score with the HS, and you get an idea as to whether or not it’s really that impressive.

This is one thing I know they check. 1540 at a school where the average is 1480 is not as good as 1480 where the school average is <1000. My neighbor's kid got the red carpet treatment and I believe it is because her high school is infamously bad.

Will she be prepared for the rigors of college? Maybe she’s in an IB bubble or something…gl to her