Duke Sees Dramatic Spike for 2028 ED applicants... Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.

Wrong. ED was always there for rich white kids. It's not like Duke has a large percentage of URMs anyways.

Duke is a T10 school that top students want as their first choice. Not complicated.

According to Duke for class of 2027 they were 53% white, 35% Asian, 13% black, 13% hispanic, with 7% multiracial (which is why it adds up to over 100%).

35% Asian? Wow. Makes sense, in our Indian circles Duke is very popular.

Same with our Chinese friends. More desirable than many ivies

Why is that?

It's regarded a better schools than lower ivies like Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth in general not just by Asians.

I've seen Stanford and MIT pretty much get treated the same way, just better than a lot of ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.

ED schools will likely see more of a boost than REA schools. That is a big difference between Duke and Yale.

Why? There's no specific reason for ED over REA, and historically REA has been a much more popular option due to the nonbinding nature.

I would assume ED in general (not for PP's reason) will continue to grow in popularity because the standard for admission is perceived to be lower than for EA or RD. If you think your only chance of getting into a group of schools is ED, then having the optionality from REA is pointless

There's no reason for that to happen this year only and not in previous years, ED and REA have been the same for decades. The more I'm searching online, the more I believe this is largely specific to Duke this year. I don't believe any other ivy will be posting a 30% increase in early applicants, especially given Yale only had a 1%
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Given that both these numbers are completely unsubstantiated, I’d wait until the schools,do press releases on ED admissions before drawing conclusions.

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Anonymous wrote:DD's counselor got an email from Duke, they received a ~30% increase in ED applicants this year, and are projecting an ED acceptance rate below 13%... This has not helped DD's confidence for her ED chances. On a lighter note, has anyone else seen the applicant numbers for their kid's early school yet?

Duke ED is pretty crazy, especially considering this includes their national level athletes. This basically includes someone like Cooper Flagg... so even if their ED says less than 13% (about 1 in 8 kids accepted), it's really harder than that

Duke athletes re admitted outside of ED admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.

ED schools will likely see more of a boost than REA schools. That is a big difference between Duke and Yale.

Why? There's no specific reason for ED over REA, and historically REA has been a much more popular option due to the nonbinding nature.

I would assume ED in general (not for PP's reason) will continue to grow in popularity because the standard for admission is perceived to be lower than for EA or RD. If you think your only chance of getting into a group of schools is ED, then having the optionality from REA is pointless

There's no reason for that to happen this year only and not in previous years, ED and REA have been the same for decades. The more I'm searching online, the more I believe this is largely specific to Duke this year. I don't believe any other ivy will be posting a 30% increase in early applicants, especially given Yale only had a 1%
increase.

Given that both these numbers are completely unsubstantiated, I’d wait until the schools,do press releases on ED admissions before drawing conclusions.

That's true, OP's guidance counselor could have been joking or misread, better to wait for the real numbers.

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Test Blind / Optional AND application fee waivers: A recipe for systemic academic decline.

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Anonymous wrote:Test Blind / Optional AND application fee waivers: A recipe for systemic academic decline.

I'm pretty sure their admissions office knows what they're doing, and will admit kids who can thrive.

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Anonymous wrote:Test Blind / Optional AND application fee waivers: A recipe for systemic academic decline.

I think the question at hand is why did Duke specifically receive such a massive spike in applicants, it doesn't look like other ED schools are experiencing the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Test Blind / Optional AND application fee waivers: A recipe for systemic academic decline.

I think the question at hand is why did Duke specifically receive such a massive spike in applicants, it doesn't look like other ED schools are experiencing the same.

No one actually knows yet, give it a month.

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This entire thread is based on fake statistics.

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Among "top 20" schools, there are a few where applying early makes a difference. But it's like 17 percent chance versus 5 percent chance in regular decision. Significant enough for people to shoot their shot. I'm sure the numbers are the same at similar schools.

It's competitive out there.

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Duke has an ugly campus. UNC-CH is nicer, and a better school, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke has an ugly campus. UNC-CH is nicer, and a better school, too.

Hope you enjoyed your time in Chapel Hill!

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Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court decision has emboldened Whites and Asians to apply to great schools because their race now won’t hurt their admission chances. Also, kids are looking for strong academics, not wokeness gone wrong. That’s why Duke has a surge of ED and Yale doesn’t. Also, folks are tired of NE provincialism.

Wrong. ED was always there for rich white kids. It's not like Duke has a large percentage of URMs anyways.

Duke is a T10 school that top students want as their first choice. Not complicated.

According to Duke for class of 2027 they were 53% white, 35% Asian, 13% black, 13% hispanic, with 7% multiracial (which is why it adds up to over 100%).

35% Asian? Wow. Makes sense, in our Indian circles Duke is very popular.

Same with our Chinese friends. More desirable than many ivies

Interesting! In my circle, it’s almost universally Asians and others of color who attend Ivies. The white kids go to Duke.

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They are probably marketing themselves a lot more as an achievable elite school. Ironically, it will drastically lower their acceptance rate

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably marketing themselves a lot more as an achievable elite school. Ironically, it will drastically lower their acceptance rate

Doubt it, anyone can see the numbers. Being ranked #7 on US News doesn't leave a lot of daylight.