Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

[Anonymous]

The 10 year is LYING to all of you. Crime is NOTHING. The border is secure.

And my name is Blair, Eric.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms. Ward 3 residents complaining about car thefts (which are up freaking everywhere and tons of them are because Kia and Hyundai took serious short cuts) is uncool. Ward 7 and 8 can and should be in an uproar and that should also be where the city resources are pouring into. Parts of Ward 5 as well. Wards 4, 3, 2, 1 and 6 are all basically flat YoYoY for the last decade...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

lol. “inflation is not an issue” is the latest progressive Twitter spin attempt now that “crime is not a problem” has failed. so clueless.

Inflation *was* a problem for a small amount of time. It no longer is a huge problem.

Doesn’t matter, prices are still higher than before and won’t go down from here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

lol. “inflation is not an issue” is the latest progressive Twitter spin attempt now that “crime is not a problem” has failed. so clueless.

Inflation *was* a problem for a small amount of time. It no longer is a huge problem.

what a dummy

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

We have more murders than Baltimore. And murders are way down in almost every other big city except DC where they’re up almost 40 percent.

Parts of DC have an absurdly high rate of murder. But other parts are just well below the national norms. Ward 3 residents complaining about car thefts (which are up freaking everywhere and tons of them are because Kia and Hyundai took serious short cuts) is uncool. Ward 7 and 8 can and should be in an uproar and that should also be where the city resources are pouring into. Parts of Ward 5 as well. Wards 4, 3, 2, 1 and 6 are all basically flat YoYoY for the last decade...



Above doesn't have 2023 in it, but if we look at that.. what do we see? Wards 7 & 8 are much worse than they were before, 6 and 1 are up slightly, 2 and 4 are down slightly, and ward 3 has had none this year (although normally doesn't have many).

Am I not supposed to care about the DC kids shot at in W7 and 8?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how it is lost on people that crime will increase when crime at the very top of our society is not only not enforced but glorified and accepted and that anyone who follows the rules is somehow a cu%k.

The law is not being enforced on those at the top. There are no social norms any more. There is no culpability. There is glorification of getting over everyone else, avoiding taxes, skirting within the grey areas, trading state secrets, etc. Corporations are allowed to do what the he%k they want because they have power and money. The rhetoric surrounding the poor and minorities and immigrants is abysmal. Education is completely underfunded at the local level- not underfunded for admin/chromebook providers/ed tech companies (see corporations). 95% of local policing is a solution to problems that weren't handled by effective social policies. But I am sure that locking up even more kids and young adults will somehow have a better outcome and that those private prison corporations will make someone rich so they can do more "philanthropy" which as pointed out at the recent world economic forum, is just tax avoidance with a pretty bow on it.

We get it. Chill out. You vote for Bernie Sanders. That’s great. We know you don’t like “wealthy tax cheats” and all that hippie sht. We get they use tax havens and we get lobbying and how it helps the wealthy. That’s cool. It sucks. But at the same time those dudes are not the ones pushing all these violent criminals to actually go out and mug people. They are physically forcing them to do it. We need accountability.

Your little distraction story, and a broader implication of the ills of wealth inequality and blah blah is important. But to the topic at hand. We need to arrest violent criminals. That’s it. Stop your long winded diatribe about addressing the root cause of poverty first. No. Tell me the best way to immediately stop violent crime. You know it. I know it.

Now let’s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

lol. “inflation is not an issue” is the latest progressive Twitter spin attempt now that “crime is not a problem” has failed. so clueless.

Inflation *was* a problem for a small amount of time. It no longer is a huge problem.

what a dummy

The fed has already taken action to curb inflation. That's already had an effect. They are leaving those actions in place and benchmark interest rates are still elevated. But they did it in a cautious way so as not to run too hard into stagflation. It's called a soft landing, and by all accounts, its working as intended. If you're pissed off because the place you work for isn't giving you a raise, then take it up with your boss, who probably took out a PPP loan and bought a boat or some shit which was partly what drove a ton of this in the first place, or get a new job - because unemployment is near all time lows.

[Anonymous]

Children are no longer taught morals and values in the home and that it is wrong to steal, wrong to steal cars and wrong to kill.

This type of behavior is celebrated in some cultures.

[Anonymous]

This is very sad for seniors. Seniors should have safe housing away from troublemakers and crews and gang members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Neither DC crime, nor the border, nor inflation are real issues.

100%. It's all overblown and being misrepresented.

Crime is bad. I get it. Other people here get it to. But our rate of violent crime is better than those other cities. It's like people in Ward 3 flipping out over a single digit increase in a type of crime, when from a level perspective they are way, way, way below the rest of the city.

These articles all lack perspective.

lol. “inflation is not an issue” is the latest progressive Twitter spin attempt now that “crime is not a problem” has failed. so clueless.

Inflation *was* a problem for a small amount of time. It no longer is a huge problem.

Yes, because poor people’s rent goes back down now. Dummy, those huge increases are now baked in the cake every month.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

You are right, DEI funding and programs are more urgent. As is the funding and building of bike lanes - urgent!!! Crime - meh. It’s okay kids are having their shoes stolen in a public library. Not urgent!

Oh yeah if one ward 3 white dude on a bike gets hit on Connecticut avenue we have to spend billions of dollars completely reworking our transportation system and talk about it endlessly.

But if murders are up 40 percent, robberies are up 70 percent, car thefts have more than doubled, teenagers are looting drug stores — it’s oh crime is not that big of deal, why are you obsessed?

Maybe we could find a white cyclist from Tenleytown who was a victim of a violent crime? Then people would care?

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how it is lost on people that crime will increase when crime at the very top of our society is not only not enforced but glorified and accepted and that anyone who follows the rules is somehow a cu%k.

The law is not being enforced on those at the top. There are no social norms any more. There is no culpability. There is glorification of getting over everyone else, avoiding taxes, skirting within the grey areas, trading state secrets, etc. Corporations are allowed to do what the he%k they want because they have power and money. The rhetoric surrounding the poor and minorities and immigrants is abysmal. Education is completely underfunded at the local level- not underfunded for admin/chromebook providers/ed tech companies (see corporations). 95% of local policing is a solution to problems that weren't handled by effective social policies. But I am sure that locking up even more kids and young adults will somehow have a better outcome and that those private prison corporations will make someone rich so they can do more "philanthropy" which as pointed out at the recent world economic forum, is just tax avoidance with a pretty bow on it.

I think you're on to something here. There is a lot of class warfare right now between the Ultra Rich and everyone else - oddly some of that being actively stoked by the ultra rich... The difference is the "not-quite-ultra-rich-but-still-well-off" people think they're part of that group too. They aren't. Some folks across the lower/middle ends of that spectrum are starting to rebel though, since they see that rules just simply don't apply to the ultra rich class why the heck should they still care either. Property crime with abandon, the stupid paper license plates, increased car jackings to just take a joy ride (or rob a csv). At least a good chunk of this can just be chalked up to fatalism from a result of "these rules don't matter to the wealthy folks and Bodie told us the way it was years ago."

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how it is lost on people that crime will increase when crime at the very top of our society is not only not enforced but glorified and accepted and that anyone who follows the rules is somehow a cu%k.

The law is not being enforced on those at the top. There are no social norms any more. There is no culpability. There is glorification of getting over everyone else, avoiding taxes, skirting within the grey areas, trading state secrets, etc. Corporations are allowed to do what the he%k they want because they have power and money. The rhetoric surrounding the poor and minorities and immigrants is abysmal. Education is completely underfunded at the local level- not underfunded for admin/chromebook providers/ed tech companies (see corporations). 95% of local policing is a solution to problems that weren't handled by effective social policies. But I am sure that locking up even more kids and young adults will somehow have a better outcome and that those private prison corporations will make someone rich so they can do more "philanthropy" which as pointed out at the recent world economic forum, is just tax avoidance with a pretty bow on it.

We get it. Chill out. You vote for Bernie Sanders. That’s great. We know you don’t like “wealthy tax cheats” and all that hippie sht. We get they use tax havens and we get lobbying and how it helps the wealthy. That’s cool. It sucks. But at the same time those dudes are not the ones pushing all these violent criminals to actually go out and mug people. They are physically forcing them to do it. We need accountability.

Your little distraction story, and a broader implication of the ills of wealth inequality and blah blah is important. But to the topic at hand. We need to arrest violent criminals. That’s it. Stop your long winded diatribe about addressing the root cause of poverty first. No. Tell me the best way to immediately stop violent crime. You know it. I know it.

Now let’s

Nope actually think Bernie Sanders is a problem thanks.
You mean violent crime like rape, sexual assault, pedophiles, etc?
I am saying dont be surprised when people become opportunists when they see those in power being opportunists.
And you all are only up in arms about crime rates when it spills outside of the wards. Just like with crack vs fentanyl/opiates/weed. Drugs are only a problem when poor brown people use them. Otherwise, its just a good time. White kids can go 100 mph on the beltway and its just a bad decision/too much car for a kid. Black kids driving ATVs- throw them in jail, that will teach them!

And yes social problems do alter arrests and prosecution:

"But in the district, most crimes committed by adults are prosecuted by an appointed U.S. attorney, not an elected district attorney. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves has taken flak for declining during fiscal year 2022 to charge, at the time of arrest, 67% of offenses that would have been tried in D.C. Superior Court, the usual venue for non-federal crimes.
Graves, in office since 2021, said the rate is driven by several factors beyond his control, one being the D.C. crime lab’s lack of accreditation."

And I would be even more interested to see the data on those that are arrested, how many are actually from DC versus surrounding areas/instigators. Organized crime is going to continue to increase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Children are no longer taught morals and values in the home and that it is wrong to steal, wrong to steal cars and wrong to kill.

This type of behavior is celebrated in some cultures.

Oh, please elaborate on which "cultures" celebrate stealing and killing......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how it is lost on people that crime will increase when crime at the very top of our society is not only not enforced but glorified and accepted and that anyone who follows the rules is somehow a cu%k.

The law is not being enforced on those at the top. There are no social norms any more. There is no culpability. There is glorification of getting over everyone else, avoiding taxes, skirting within the grey areas, trading state secrets, etc. Corporations are allowed to do what the he%k they want because they have power and money. The rhetoric surrounding the poor and minorities and immigrants is abysmal. Education is completely underfunded at the local level- not underfunded for admin/chromebook providers/ed tech companies (see corporations). 95% of local policing is a solution to problems that weren't handled by effective social policies. But I am sure that locking up even more kids and young adults will somehow have a better outcome and that those private prison corporations will make someone rich so they can do more "philanthropy" which as pointed out at the recent world economic forum, is just tax avoidance with a pretty bow on it.

We get it. Chill out. You vote for Bernie Sanders. That’s great. We know you don’t like “wealthy tax cheats” and all that hippie sht. We get they use tax havens and we get lobbying and how it helps the wealthy. That’s cool. It sucks. But at the same time those dudes are not the ones pushing all these violent criminals to actually go out and mug people. They are physically forcing them to do it. We need accountability.

Your little distraction story, and a broader implication of the ills of wealth inequality and blah blah is important. But to the topic at hand. We need to arrest violent criminals. That’s it. Stop your long winded diatribe about addressing the root cause of poverty first. No. Tell me the best way to immediately stop violent crime. You know it. I know it.

Now let’s

Nope actually think Bernie Sanders is a problem thanks.
You mean violent crime like rape, sexual assault, pedophiles, etc?
I am saying dont be surprised when people become opportunists when they see those in power being opportunists.
And you all are only up in arms about crime rates when it spills outside of the wards. Just like with crack vs fentanyl/opiates/weed. Drugs are only a problem when poor brown people use them. Otherwise, its just a good time. White kids can go 100 mph on the beltway and its just a bad decision/too much car for a kid. Black kids driving ATVs- throw them in jail, that will teach them!

And yes social problems do alter arrests and prosecution:

"But in the district, most crimes committed by adults are prosecuted by an appointed U.S. attorney, not an elected district attorney. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves has taken flak for declining during fiscal year 2022 to charge, at the time of arrest, 67% of offenses that would have been tried in D.C. Superior Court, the usual venue for non-federal crimes.
Graves, in office since 2021, said the rate is driven by several factors beyond his control, one being the D.C. crime lab’s lack of accreditation."

And I would be even more interested to see the data on those that are arrested, how many are actually from DC versus surrounding areas/instigators. Organized crime is going to continue to increase.

Enough with sensationalist Che Guevara stuff. You don’t need to write a novel full of flowery prose and righteous indignation where the protagonist “sticks it to the man”. Let’s focus on brass tacks. We need to arrest and lock up the violent criminals and thieves who are causing the safety and quality of life to decline, correct?