Big story in WSJ on violent crime in DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The story says one issue specific to DC is that our attorney general is elected, not appointed, and that our attorney general refuses to prosecute the vast majority of arrests made by the cops

I’m not bothering to click, but if that’s the difference, an editor needs to be fired. The DC Attorney general is not allowed to prosecute felonies

It doesn't say this. It says we have an appointed USAO rather than an elected DA.

Exactly. And that is true.

However it is also true that our elected AG, who is supposed to prosecute most juvenile crime, seems to be failing effectively do so. So, in that respect, being elected does not seem to have moved the needle.

I mean yes, he is appointed by Biden, and obviously the memo these appointees are getting in the last few years are to push a progressive criminal justice reform agenda in the wake of George Floyd.

But also yes Fox News is a right wing mouthpiece and are running this sorry probably to sent democrats on crime.

So yes everyone is right. It’s sad that crime is rising. It’s sad that progressive criminal justice policies seem to let criminals know they have a free pass because all they’ll get is restorative justice. It’s sad that looking up violent criminals works better. Yeah I get we need to attack the root causes of poverty and fund wrap around services and all that sht, but we also neee to be strict on crime.

[Anonymous]

A coming ballot initiative that would allow independent voters to vote in primaries would help. That would help break the grip the far left has on city council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The story says one issue specific to DC is that our attorney general is elected, not appointed, and that our attorney general refuses to prosecute the vast majority of arrests made by the cops

I’m not bothering to click, but if that’s the difference, an editor needs to be fired. The DC Attorney general is not allowed to prosecute felonies

It doesn't say this. It says we have an appointed USAO rather than an elected DA.

Exactly. And that is true.

However it is also true that our elected AG, who is supposed to prosecute most juvenile crime, seems to be failing effectively do so. So, in that respect, being elected does not seem to have moved the needle.

I mean yes, he is appointed by Biden, and obviously the memo these appointees are getting in the last few years are to push a progressive criminal justice reform agenda in the wake of George Floyd.

But also yes Fox News is a right wing mouthpiece and are running this sorry probably to sent democrats on crime.

So yes everyone is right. It’s sad that crime is rising. It’s sad that progressive criminal justice policies seem to let criminals know they have a free pass because all they’ll get is restorative justice. It’s sad that looking up violent criminals works better. Yeah I get we need to attack the root causes of poverty and fund wrap around services and all that sht, but we also neee to be strict on crime.

I mean look at his 4 pillars:

“These conversations have formed the foundation of the four core pillars that will guide the work of the Office of Attorney General under my leadership:

Prioritizing public safety and hopeful kids

Promoting equity

Standing up for democratic values
Building on the institutional excellence of the Office of Attorney General”

https://medium.com/@dcattorneygeneral/attorney-general-schwalbs-four-pillars-prioritizing-public-safety-and-hopeful-kids-65d80af1d43d

What does this tell you of his views on prosecution?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

[Anonymous]

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It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation


I agree that right wing media exacerbates wedge issues.

But as a dc resident, a reader of crime stats, and basically someone who lives where the crime is happening, I wish you could put aside your own bias on this issue.

Can you elaborate how you lean? For example , Are you broadly in favor of restorative Justice over incarceration? Do you deny crime is rising? Even the Mexican embassy warned its citizens about massive increases in crime and they’re not right wing. I mean Wapo reports on it. It is happening. You just seem to want to deny it because maybe it puts a dent in your views of progressive criminal justice reform efforts, which tend to be lenient.

Most of DC is blue. But most of DC is not deeply deeply far left. But our polarized political system, which has resulted in the red parts of the country electing wing-nuts like Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Lauren Boebert, has resulted in DC being afflicted at the other end of the spectrum with Charles Allen, Brianne Nadeau and Brian Schwalb, who are hell-bent on the implementation of criminal justice policies which endanger us all.

You forgot to list the Mayor - the city's Chief Executive, who runs the Police Department and sets policies in dozens of agencies - among those who have failed in their attempts to reduce crime. Letting our elected leaders off the hook for their failures is one of the reasons why we have this problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

Yeah, tell that to all the victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A coming ballot initiative that would allow independent voters to vote in primaries would help. That would help break the grip the far left has on city council.

Independent voters already can vote in party primaries, if they register with a party. Or did you mean "voters who aren't registered with the party in the party primary"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

Too bad you can’t control what other people this is a crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

Hard to think of another issue DC cares more about. Bowsers deputy told the journal it’s the no. 1 issue in the city right now. She’s right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

You are right, DEI funding and programs are more urgent. As is the funding and building of bike lanes - urgent!!! Crime - meh. It’s okay kids are having their shoes stolen in a public library. Not urgent!

[Anonymous]

Why are people so hell bent on painting
the District in such a negative light? What is to be gained?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The story says one issue specific to DC is that our attorney general is elected, not appointed, and that our attorney general refuses to prosecute the vast majority of arrests made by the cops

I’m not bothering to click, but if that’s the difference, an editor needs to be fired. The DC Attorney general is not allowed to prosecute felonies

It doesn't say this. It says we have an appointed USAO rather than an elected DA.

Exactly. And that is true.

However it is also true that our elected AG, who is supposed to prosecute most juvenile crime, seems to be failing effectively do so. So, in that respect, being elected does not seem to have moved the needle.

I mean yes, he is appointed by Biden, and obviously the memo these appointees are getting in the last few years are to push a progressive criminal justice reform agenda in the wake of George Floyd.

But also yes Fox News is a right wing mouthpiece and are running this sorry probably to sent democrats on crime.

So yes everyone is right. It’s sad that crime is rising. It’s sad that progressive criminal justice policies seem to let criminals know they have a free pass because all they’ll get is restorative justice. It’s sad that looking up violent criminals works better. Yeah I get we need to attack the root causes of poverty and fund wrap around services and all that sht, but we also neee to be strict on crime.

Rate started to tick up in 2017, end of Obama's term and well before Floyd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so hell bent on painting
the District in such a negative light? What is to be gained?

What is to be gained by not confronting the rising crime head on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all the Murdoch outlets are pushing this story.

It isn’t just the Murdoch companies. It’s the entire right-wing media conspiracy Hillary spoke accurately about back in the 1990s.

It’s actually amazing how predictable it is. What wedge issues are they going to blow out of proportion and then cry bias that the professional news media isn’t following suit?

It’s a little like the Daily Wire’s bizarre fascination with culture war stories about Northern Virginia. The right wing media complex is hell-bent on disinformation

Which part of the statistics is disinformation?

The emphasis of the coverage is the issue. No one said these aren’t important issues, they’re just really not the most urgent ones. So the wall-to-wall coverage like they’re crises or something is what’s objectionable.

You are right, DEI funding and programs are more urgent. As is the funding and building of bike lanes - urgent!!! Crime - meh. It’s okay kids are having their shoes stolen in a public library. Not urgent!

Oh yeah if one ward 3 white dude on a bike gets hit on Connecticut avenue we have to spend billions of dollars completely reworking our transportation system and talk about it endlessly.

But if murders are up 40 percent, robberies are up 70 percent, car thefts have more than doubled, teenagers are looting drug stores — it’s oh crime is not that big of deal, why are you obsessed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so hell bent on painting
the District in such a negative light? What is to be gained?

What is to be gained by not confronting the rising crime head on?

There are a ton of threads bashing DC. What's the end game?