Ex suddenly wants to get child passport, but there are no plans for international travel

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get a passport without your consent. Document all this unhinged behavior so if he goes to court to try to compel your consent (possible) you have a clear argument against it.

OP again.

The unhinged behavior is just stuff he says. There's no action. So does that count in court? He says he will be killed by the government, and needs to flee to another country for political asylum.

Does this not terrify you? I mean, it sounds exactly like that dad who took his two kids to Mexico and killed them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Troll. Your ex just so happens to be a notary? What a coincidence!

Not OP, but -- THIS is what you focus on? Many, many people are notaries. Lots of people become notaries for work reasons or to pick up extra money outside work. It's not that hard to become one. Totally within reason that OP's ex could be a notary.

You just want to call troll because that seems to be a requirement on every single thread these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ex is newly very interested in getting our child (shared custody) a passport, despite there being no plans in the foreseeable future of international travel.

This, coupled with some increasingly alarming things coming from my ex reflecting paranoia about the government, lead me to be very opposed to getting my child a passport.

I think my ex can't get a passport for my child without my presence and consent. However, it doesn't stop him from being verbally abusive while bothering me about it. The abuse stems from him believing that the government is going to get him and our child, and that I am some sort of dupe to not recognize it.

(Note: My ex is not some sort of security professional.)

I'm not entirely certain what I can do here, aside from suggest therapy (which he's in), and refuse to get the passport. Is there some other legal step I should take? There's presently no reason to call in the authorities or anything.

Everyone needs a passport. What are your concerns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Easy solution Get the passport and you hold on to it.

This is really bad advice.

Once a passport is issued, it is easy to get a replacement by claiming that the passport was lost or stolen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He cannot get a passport without your consent. Document all this unhinged behavior so if he goes to court to try to compel your consent (possible) you have a clear argument against it.

This. He cannot get a passport for a child without your consent. It’s not possible

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Easy solution Get the passport and you hold on to it.

This is really bad advice.

Once a passport is issued, it is easy to get a replacement by claiming that the passport was lost or stolen.

Or he could just steal it from you, trick the kid into finding it… bad plan.

Stick to refusing to get one in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would get the passport myself and keep it at MY house under lock and key. You may want to travel internationally with your child at some point! So tell him his request is reasonable, but that you're taking care of it yourself.

This one.

Also, neither of you can take the child out of the country without a notarized consent form from the other spouse anyway.

This is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Troll. Your ex just so happens to be a notary? What a coincidence!

Plot twist: OP is actually the delusional parent trying to crowd source ideas for getting the kids passports w/o consent of the mentally stable parent.

Now OP is wondering if forging a notary seal is possible thanks to this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would get the passport myself and keep it at MY house under lock and key. You may want to travel internationally with your child at some point! So tell him his request is reasonable, but that you're taking care of it yourself.

This one.

Also, neither of you can take the child out of the country without a notarized consent form from the other spouse anyway.

Technically you can't take the child out of the country without a notarized consent form but I have done so multiple times and they have never checked. I think you get flagged more if the child doesn't look like the parent.

I have never had an issue with this, sometimes the agent will ask my ds questions like, “what is your name” “where are you going?” “do you know this person?” etc., but I’ve never been asked for a letter of consent, nor have I ever thought to take one.

Plus even those questions struck me as having an on the lookout for child trafficking vibe to them, especially when asked during domestic travel, as opposed to a parent kidnapping vibe.

Most of our travels are to places like Western Europe, for tourist travel, so not really an issue in terms of places you can abscond to and not be subject to the long arm of the law and extradition.

I’ve heard Mexico can be an issue.